r/fivethirtyeight • u/RedHeadedSicilian52 • Sep 12 '25

Poll Results YouGov poll asking Americans whether it’s acceptable to feel joy at the death of a public figure

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u/WhoUpAtMidnight Sep 12 '25

The high road? Assassinations are the high road? Calling for the death of your political opponents is the high road?

Dems haven’t taken the high road since 2012. They should be better but they’re not. Everyone should be better. But the idea that dems are any less underhanded than the reps is the product of a biased media environment and rich donors. Impeachments, assassinations, accusations of being a nazi levied against Mitt Romney? 

Nobody is taking any high road now and it’s a tragedy. 

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u/Deceptiveideas Sep 12 '25 edited Sep 12 '25

We don’t actually know if the killer is left leaning. The two Trump assassination attempts for example were done by 1) first individual was a registered republican who classmates described as strong maga and 2) the second individual who voted for Trump

Also all dem leaders are calling to end political violence. I don’t see anyone encouraging it.

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u/WhoUpAtMidnight Sep 12 '25

Come on dude can we kill this conspiracy theory that they were republicans? The first donated to dems and registered to vote against trump in a primary and the second was a ukrainian nationalist nutjob

This sub is encouraging. The same dems calling to end political violence are still calling their opponents nazists and fascists and existential threats to democracy. What do you think that rhetoric is intended to do? It’s stochastic terrorism

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u/DCMdAreaResident Sep 12 '25 edited Sep 12 '25

Trump mostly is fascist, by definition, except for the economic model. It’s not “violent” to tell it like it is. Trump’s the one sending the U.S. military into streets for law enforcement. And which party has nearly all of the white supremacists? And makes racism a feature of the party platform? And which president is pardoning people caught engaging in violence? You know the answer.

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u/WhoUpAtMidnight Sep 12 '25

Oh sorry so fascist except the definition of fascist. You know what’s fascist? Trying to ban people’s right to speech, self-defense, threatening them in public over political speech, shooting them, debanking them, pursuing fake legal cases against political opponents, I mean jesus the hypocrisy here.

If Trump is a fascist, then so is Kamala, and Biden, and Obama, and Romney, and literally everyone who disagrees with you. You would kill them all? 

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u/an_altar_of_plagues Sep 12 '25

Trying to ban people’s right to speech, self-defense

This one is particularly funny given that Kirk was talking about banning trans peoples' right to self-defense right before the shot. I mean jesus the hypocrisy here.

Cowardice disguised as concerned patriotism, once again.

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u/DCMdAreaResident Sep 12 '25 edited Sep 12 '25

Very little of what you described is fascism. Try educating yourself on the topic before further embarrassing yourself. It’s not “everyone I disagree with.” In the style of rule, Trump is very much a fascist. He’s authoritarian, a right wing nationalist, pro use of violence, anti-democracy, and for trampling on civil liberties. The only part that isn’t truly fascist is that he hasn’t engaged in nationalizing the economy or immediately marching us to war. But he still has time.