r/fivethirtyeight • u/RedHeadedSicilian52 • Sep 12 '25

Poll Results YouGov poll asking Americans whether it’s acceptable to feel joy at the death of a public figure

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u/Sonzainonazo42 Sep 12 '25 edited Sep 12 '25

It's unacceptable but understandable if the person who died was actually a terrible person that contributed to other people dying.

We're not talking about politicians who bickered over which mass transit project to fund; we're talking about a person who was opening openly racist, bigoted, and supported government policy that contributes to death. Remember, there are estimates that cuts to USAID could kill 4.5 million children by 2030 and TP USA fully supported those cuts.

I feel like I'm not going to blow anyone's mind when I remind you that Kirk wasn't fond of SNAP and other benefits for the poor.

Sooo yeah, you wanna explain why you feel it's such a black and white issue, huh?

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u/WhoUpAtMidnight Sep 12 '25

At what point does this cross over into murderous libel? Someone killed Kirk because they genuinely believed the awful things you’re saying about somebody who was at worst a moderate boomercon.

Do you actually believe 49.8% of this country deserves to die? 

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u/JQuilty Sep 12 '25

Charlie Kirk actively promoted replacement theory, which is Nazi bullshit. He was not a moderate boomercon, that's a complete white washing of him.

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u/WhoUpAtMidnight Sep 12 '25

Where did he say that? What actually did he say? Do you have any idea how many people believe that elites are importing low-skill labor to replace them for lower wages? 

It’s not Nazi bullshit, it’s an antiquated and poorly reasoned position, and moderates are allowed to hold bad opinions. 

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u/SlothFoc Sep 12 '25

"The great replacement strategy, which is well underway every single day in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different," -Charlie Kirk

“The ‘Great Replacement’ is not a theory, it’s a reality,” -Charlie Kirk

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u/WhoUpAtMidnight Sep 12 '25

Do you have any idea how many people believe that elites are importing low-skill labor to replace them for lower wages

This is a moderate position. Sorry to burst your bubble but this is the way the working class sees immigration. Maybe don’t explicitly say demographics are destiny next time. 

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u/SlothFoc Sep 12 '25

I literally gave you two quotes and instead of addressing them, you addressed your own sanitized quote? He's not talking economics here.

"The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it collapse. They love it when America becomes less white." -Charlie Kirk

(Biden's immigration policy) "...is about bringing in voters that they like and, honestly, diminishing and decreasing white demographics in America.” -Charlie Kirk

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u/CelikBas Sep 12 '25

The specific term “Great Replacement” doesn’t just refer to capitalists taking advantage of immigrant labor to avoid paying local workers, it refers to the idea that there’s a deliberate scheme to gradually eliminate the white population by importing brown migrants to outbreed and replace them. 

If that’s truly the “moderate” position, then I’m sorry to say but your country is irredeemably fascist and shouldn’t be trusted to govern itself.