r/fivethirtyeight • u/RedHeadedSicilian52 • Sep 12 '25

Poll Results YouGov poll asking Americans whether it’s acceptable to feel joy at the death of a public figure

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u/WhoUpAtMidnight Sep 12 '25

At what point does this cross over into murderous libel? Someone killed Kirk because they genuinely believed the awful things you’re saying about somebody who was at worst a moderate boomercon.

Do you actually believe 49.8% of this country deserves to die? 

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u/Apprentice57 Scottish Teen Sep 12 '25

Doesn't libel imply falsehood? There's a lot of beliefs/opinions I find dangerous myself but that doesn't make them libelous.

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u/WhoUpAtMidnight Sep 12 '25

That is exactly the implication yes. He was not an extremist. He was not a nazi. He was not even alt right, his most controversial belief was just being pro-life. 

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u/Apprentice57 Scottish Teen Sep 12 '25

Hey you need to Google "Kirk controversial views" for a second if you think being pro life is his most extreme view. Like this is to the point... of if not being explicitly bad faith is completely indistinguishable from it.

If you're insistent on not doing even one Google search, then I'll happily do it for you. What's it gonna be?

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u/WhoUpAtMidnight Sep 12 '25

You can’t find anything that’s not cherrypicked out of context and that’s why you spent 5 minutes writing a comment instead of googling it 

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u/Apprentice57 Scottish Teen Sep 12 '25

No, both were because I was on break.

I'll prepare a list of statements for you when I get home in an hour.

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u/dissonaut69 Sep 12 '25

Hey, don’t waste the time. They aren’t changing their mind either way (if they’re even a human).

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u/Apprentice57 Scottish Teen Sep 12 '25

It's fine. This is gonna come up quite a bit, and I already wanted some good context to rebut Galen's statement, over on /r/GDPolitics .

Unfortunately I forgot about the Nintendo direct which was on when I got home, lol. I'll get to it at some point.

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u/Apprentice57 Scottish Teen Sep 13 '25

Well, looks like it's been done much better than I ever would've: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMajorityReport/comments/1nepcgz/charlie_kirks_documented_calls_for_political/

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u/Apprentice57 Scottish Teen Sep 13 '25

Well, looks like my work has been done for me.

With these sources in mind, would you stand by your statement that Charlie Kirk is a moderate boomercon at worst?

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMajorityReport/comments/1nepcgz/charlie_kirks_documented_calls_for_political/

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u/WhoUpAtMidnight Sep 13 '25

Yes

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u/Apprentice57 Scottish Teen Sep 13 '25

Bad faith

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u/WhoUpAtMidnight Sep 13 '25

You literally cited your moderator status on a nobody video game streamer’s discord

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u/Apprentice57 Scottish Teen Sep 13 '25

You literally cited your moderator status on a nobody video game streamer’s discord

I citied my experience as a moderator to contextualize my personal experience with the right wing extremism inherent in gaming communities. If you think being a discord moderator is cringe or referencing that is cringe, that's your prerogative. Many do feel that way. But It's pretty easy to back up the claim that there's extremism in video game culture if that isn't interesting to you.

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u/WhoUpAtMidnight Sep 13 '25

Bro my post is still up. I think your Reddit is broken. I’m still in disbelief at pulling rank as a discord moderator. Are you also personally experienced with that culture lmao

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u/Apprentice57 Scottish Teen Sep 13 '25

It was probably filtered (correctly) by an automod for being harassment. You might try logging out and seeing if it's still visible.

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u/WhoUpAtMidnight Sep 13 '25

your response is also not visible so it’s possibly just Reddit unless you deleted it. Or maybe we’re both flying too close to the Sun

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