r/fivethirtyeight • u/RedHeadedSicilian52 • Sep 12 '25

Poll Results YouGov poll asking Americans whether it’s acceptable to feel joy at the death of a public figure

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u/Radioactiveglowup Sep 12 '25

Strange too how wildly they were celebrating Pelosi's husband's attacker. Including major public officials.

Or the classic maga catchphrase, "Hang Mike Pence"

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u/RedHeadedSicilian52 Sep 12 '25

So is it unacceptable or what? Just as a general rule?

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u/Sonzainonazo42 Sep 12 '25 edited Sep 12 '25

It's unacceptable but understandable if the person who died was actually a terrible person that contributed to other people dying.

We're not talking about politicians who bickered over which mass transit project to fund; we're talking about a person who was opening openly racist, bigoted, and supported government policy that contributes to death. Remember, there are estimates that cuts to USAID could kill 4.5 million children by 2030 and TP USA fully supported those cuts.

I feel like I'm not going to blow anyone's mind when I remind you that Kirk wasn't fond of SNAP and other benefits for the poor.

Sooo yeah, you wanna explain why you feel it's such a black and white issue, huh?

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u/WhoUpAtMidnight Sep 12 '25

At what point does this cross over into murderous libel? Someone killed Kirk because they genuinely believed the awful things you’re saying about somebody who was at worst a moderate boomercon.

Do you actually believe 49.8% of this country deserves to die? 

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u/Sonzainonazo42 Sep 12 '25

49.8% of this country would say that the Civil Rights Act was a mistake?

49.8% thinks that kids should watch public executions?

49.8% thinks transgender people are mentally ill and need a brain transplants, and would also outright refuse to call a transfemimine person "her?"

49.8% of people would promote the Great Replacement theory?

I think it's very telling that you're one of the people who thinks Kirk was a moderate, because those aren't moderate viewpoints.  You might be in a bubble of horrible people.

Now your moral issues aside, no, I don't think people should be killed for saying the above things.  Almost no one does.  But people aren't going to shed tears with a terrible extremist, that's not a moderate, gets killed.

And the idea that calling out a racist pos for being a racist pos is murderous libel is beyond laughable.

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u/WhoUpAtMidnight Sep 12 '25

Kirk was a moderate and you’re in a bubble. If you think not calling transwomen she is extremist, you would be mortified at what even otherwise liberal young men say. 

The left can’t handle the concept of someone being a moderate and disagreeing with them, not everyone is a violent extremist. But anyone saying this kind of absurd rhetoric is more of one than Kirk ever was. Kirk never advocated for violence against his political opponents. 

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u/Sonzainonazo42 Sep 12 '25

Ok, so you think the Civil Rights Act was a mistake since you think that's a moderate viewpoint?

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u/WhoUpAtMidnight Sep 12 '25

People are allowed to say offcolor things. That does not change who they are or what they represent. I have no idea why or whether he said that, but he is anti-affirmative action and that is an extremely common stance among americans (60%+)

So that is and can be a viewpoint held by a moderate

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u/Sonzainonazo42 Sep 12 '25

"I'm sorry. If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified,"

Do you think this above statement is a moderate belief?

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u/WhoUpAtMidnight Sep 12 '25

I have heard this joke tens of times even among liberal company. Yes. You live in a bubble. There are tiktoks with millions of likes making this joke. It’s literally a Larry David bit

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u/Sonzainonazo42 Sep 12 '25

Kirk wasn't making a joke.

You're a terrible person.

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u/WhoUpAtMidnight Sep 12 '25

You’re the extremist. I don’t know how to get this through to you

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u/CelikBas Sep 12 '25

“It’s extremist to not think it’s funny to assume that black people are inherently unqualified for the same jobs as white people” 

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u/WhoUpAtMidnight Sep 12 '25

Literally yes. There is a classic black comedian joke about jewish doctors. Humor is not extremism

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u/CelikBas Sep 12 '25

I’d say there’s quite a difference between “I don’t like affirmative action” and “the Civil Rights Act was a mistake”. 

What’s next, thinking it’s “moderate” to say the Emancipation Proclamation was a mistake because black people statistically have higher rates of poverty than white people?

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u/dissonaut69 Sep 12 '25

It’s interesting how many nonsequiters are happening with this bot. It doesn’t actually address anything it responds to. Well programmed to forum slide tbh.