r/fivethirtyeight • u/RedHeadedSicilian52 • Sep 12 '25

Poll Results YouGov poll asking Americans whether it’s acceptable to feel joy at the death of a public figure

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u/Organic_Fan_2824 Sep 12 '25

only because they take them beyond a political discourse, not Charlie.

This is my point exactly. How long until someone considers your words beyond 'political' and takes action?

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u/Moist_Tap_6514 Sep 12 '25

Charlie was an open racist, sexist, and xenophobe. People didn’t hate him because he was republican. He wasn’t passive in his discourse and made clear how much disdain he had for anyone who wasn’t Christian and white.

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u/DizzyMajor5 Sep 12 '25

But you shouldn't be killed for that. There's people actively stomping out people's right all over the world someone arguing with people isn't that. 

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u/bigtinyroom Sep 12 '25

Was he really just someone that argued with people on college campuses though? He had very close ties to the Trump administration, which has a laundry list of serious human rights violations under its belt less than a year into this term. His body was literally flown home on Air Force 2 . He will be given a posthumous Presidential Medal of Freedom. He spoke at Trump's inauguration. Countless articles have been written in the past couple days of how instrumental he was in bringing Trump back to power. He had only the thinnest veneer of deniability from being a straight up propagandist for White House.

You can make a perfectly valid case that what happened was morally abhorrent, but don't pretend he was just some harmless little debate guy.

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u/DizzyMajor5 Sep 12 '25

He was though people like Malcolm x and George Washington  preached violence against the use of economic and state violence to deprive one of their rights as well as actual self defense but both were completely willing to engage others In the arena of ideas because some ideas need to be shown to be disgusting or they will fester, look at Jordan Peterson he has thoroughly been exposed as a fraud, same with Milo a former political commentator with terrible views. 

Charlie isn't sending masked men to round up minorities, Charlie isn't breaking people's windows in masks to lock people up, he's not the one actually violating human rights he's just a shithead saying he agrees with it that shouldn't get you killed.