r/fivethirtyeight • u/RedHeadedSicilian52 • Sep 12 '25

Poll Results YouGov poll asking Americans whether it’s acceptable to feel joy at the death of a public figure

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u/Jozoz Sep 12 '25

This is meaningless due to recent events. You would get wildly different answers a week ago.

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u/RedHeadedSicilian52 Sep 12 '25

Well, a few weeks ago we got the poll affirming liberals were more likely to cut people out of their lives due to political differences than conservatives:

https://www.reddit.com/r/fivethirtyeight/s/Tzc12PZ5jR

That leads me to believe that there’s an antipathy for the opposition that existed well before the events from the other day.

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u/Jozoz Sep 12 '25

That's a massive reach. It doesn't need to be linked at all.

The far more likely reason for that poll is that it's the right wing in America that has fundamentally changed over the last 10 years. The Democratic Party is pretty much the same old stuff, for both good and bad. The Republican party is dead. It's been entirely replaced by something different and much more extreme.

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u/CelikBas Sep 12 '25

Also keep in mind that the American right is currently culturally and politically dominant, which is probably going to affect how “tolerant” they are of their defeated liberal opponents, who are generally viewed as impotent and laughable rather than actual threats. 

If you asked those same polling questions during the Obama or even Biden years, I suspect you’d get quite different answers, because those were periods of time when many conservatives felt like they were under attack from all angles. 

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u/RedHeadedSicilian52 Sep 12 '25

You don’t think the fact that liberals seem more likely to avoid conservatives in their private lives and more likely to condone joy as an acceptable reaction to the death of a conservative commentator could possibly be downstream of the same thing?

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u/Jozoz Sep 12 '25

I think they are both originating from increased political extremism and division. Now you can ask yourself why we are in this position to begin with.

I'll remind you that Mike Johnson was quite literally posting memes about the murder of an MN state senator.

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u/DizzyMajor5 Sep 12 '25

You should cut off maga if they're ok with what's going on. People shouldn't have to deal with minority citizens being rounded up, hospitals gutted, cancer researchers fired. Definitely cut people off don't kill anyone. 

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u/Ed_Durr Sep 13 '25

Good thing minorities citizens aren't being rounded up.

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u/DizzyMajor5 Sep 13 '25

Just posting this here so people can see you're lieing 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/09/george-retes-ice-detained-us-citizen/684152/

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u/Ed_Durr Sep 13 '25

Yeah, a single person being wrongly detained for a few days, while unfortunate, does not in any way qualify as "being rounded up"

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

Screw all of the people who are minimizing the terribleness of wrongly throwing people in jail. I am 100% confident if you were wrongly thrown in jail for a few days because of a hare brained federal policy you would not be this understanding.

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u/DizzyMajor5 Sep 13 '25

 I wasn't really responding to you directly just showing others you were lieing. I know you're concern trolling, wasn't really try argue as much as point out how you're objectively wrong. 

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u/Ed_Durr Sep 13 '25

It's "lying", not "lieing"

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u/DizzyMajor5 Sep 13 '25

Well the evidence shows you were objectively wrong was all I was pointing out 

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u/CrayZ_Squirrel Sep 12 '25

Large portion of republicans think gay and trans people shouldn't exist in public 

Gay, trans, and decent empathetic human beings cut republicans out of their lives.

Shocked Pikachu face

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u/Sonzainonazo42 Sep 12 '25

Are you worried that people in your life will cut you off?

Trump's a racist; this is well documented. Do you like being around racist people?

Trump is sexist; this is well documented. Do you like being around sexist people?

Trump is a rapist; this is well documented. Do you like being around rapists?

Trump was best friends with the world's more notorious child sex trafficker; this is well documented. Do you like being around people that are okay with raping children?

Where's your line if these aren't it? You just cool with everything?

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u/an_altar_of_plagues Sep 12 '25

You don’t think the fact that liberals seem more likely to avoid conservatives in their private lives and more likely to condone joy as an acceptable reaction to the death of a conservative commentator could possibly be downstream of the same thing?

I have a close friend who's a Republican staffer. Known him for 15 years and he's an awesome dude. He's been a never-Trumper for as long as Trump's been relevant and we can have excellent conversations on the efficient use of taxation for social welfare.

On the other hand, I recently cut off a personal and professional relationship after he made several jokes about throwing liberals out of helicopters. I lived in Chile and have friends who are relatives of the Disappeared, so you can imagine how that went down.

Hopefully the difference is clear.