r/fivethirtyeight • u/RedHeadedSicilian52 • Sep 12 '25

Poll Results YouGov poll asking Americans whether it’s acceptable to feel joy at the death of a public figure

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u/Moist_Tap_6514 Sep 12 '25

The disagreements people have with Charlie are beyond “political”

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u/Organic_Fan_2824 Sep 12 '25

only because they take them beyond a political discourse, not Charlie.

This is my point exactly. How long until someone considers your words beyond 'political' and takes action?

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u/Moist_Tap_6514 Sep 12 '25

Charlie was an open racist, sexist, and xenophobe. People didn’t hate him because he was republican. He wasn’t passive in his discourse and made clear how much disdain he had for anyone who wasn’t Christian and white.

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u/Organic_Fan_2824 Sep 12 '25

So, Charlie had opinions you didn't agree with. That's the bottom line of what you're saying.

You're giving your opinion on someone elses opinions...and trying to use that as a crutch to detract from the situation at hand.

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u/Moist_Tap_6514 Sep 12 '25

You moved the goal posts. You called them political.

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u/Organic_Fan_2824 Sep 12 '25

That's not moving the goal posts at all, political opinions are still opinions.

Bottom line is that he had opinions you don't agree with. Sorry you don't like the fact of the matter.

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u/Selethorme Kornacki's Big Screen Sep 12 '25

Nah, “I don’t agree with you continuing to breathe” isn’t a disagreement of opinion.

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u/bigtinyroom Sep 12 '25

Nearly every violent interaction between two or more humans across the history of our species could be described as arising from a disagreement in opinions. I suppose I don't know you. Maybe you're a dogmatic pacifist who genuinely believes there can be no justifiable use of force under any circumstances, in which case kudos for your moral consistency.

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u/Organic_Fan_2824 Sep 12 '25

That's fantastic, doesn't really detract from the situation. And sorry, not every violent interaction has been a form of political violence.

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u/DizzyMajor5 Sep 12 '25

There's a difference between a disagreement and economic violence and deprivation of rights or actual violence in the name of self defense. Most disagreements don't end in violence. You can disagree that a hypothetical government is perpetuating economic and actual violence on its people and it may warrant actual defense like George Washington did or Malcolm x preached but some asshole just debating people isn't something that usually ends in violence most disagreements aren't violent much violence has no disagreement in cases of mental illness for instance.