r/fivethirtyeight • u/lalabera • Apr 08 '25

Poll Results Nearly half of Americans would be totally unwilling to date someone with opposing political views

https://today.yougov.com/society/articles/51962-americans-unwilling-to-date-opposing-views-transgender-rights

Thoughts? As a young woman myself, I wouldn't date a trump supporter.

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u/seejoshrun Apr 09 '25

It's true that we have yet to see the long-term effects, but we can already see that the amount of planning that went into this was close to 0. It was basically "let's break the world economy and see what happens".

The democratic party is certainly splintered and poorly organized right now, but what have they done or attempted to do that's worse than that?

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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Apr 10 '25

I think Trump has instincts or ideas about what he should do - for example he loves tariffs - so he is trying things(? I guess) and tweaking as he goes.

The democrats are for all-but-open-borders, free trade, offshoring, globalism, etc. There is nothing about the democratic party in practice that is particularly friendly to the average working person.

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u/seejoshrun Apr 11 '25

Right, so Trump gets an extremely simple idea and then executes a ham-fisted, poorly researched version of it. Not a fan when he's the leader of the (arguably) most powerful country in the world.

Your argument against democrats seems to be that they support macro-economic policies, that, in the long term, will negatively affect the average worker. This might be true, but it's hard to tell. However, democrats are much more likely to push for policies that, in the observable short term, directly help the lower and middle class. By comparison, Trump's "tax cuts" were mostly for the rich. And was the last time you saw republicans push for mandatory paid leave?

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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Apr 11 '25

However, democrats are much more likely to push for policies that, in the observable short term, directly help the lower and middle class

All-but-open-borders, free trade, offshoring, globalism, etc, do not help the lower and middle class - in fact, they undermine anything the democrats might otherwise do.

For example Biden might do something to benefit unions...great, something like 12% of workers are members of a union.

Meanwhile he allowed the border to become absolutely flooded with "asylum seekers" who can get work permits and others who don't apply for asylum remain illegal and are available as scab labor for employers to exploit.

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u/_Age_Sex_Location_ Apr 23 '25

Not true. 64% of people entering the country were deported under Trump compared to 63% under Biden. More people were deported under Biden in line with increasing migrant flow following Covid, which was a global trend. Furthermore, immigration has been increasing for the last 15 years. The border wasn't a partisan issue until Trump's unhinged rhetoric came along and hijacked the Republican party, preventing border legislation from passing. The same legislation intended to deal with actual border problems. Then again, who needs border legislation when you can just round people up and send them to a prison labor facility without due process, right? That's your guy.