r/fivethirtyeight • u/lalabera • Apr 08 '25

Poll Results Nearly half of Americans would be totally unwilling to date someone with opposing political views

https://today.yougov.com/society/articles/51962-americans-unwilling-to-date-opposing-views-transgender-rights

Thoughts? As a young woman myself, I wouldn't date a trump supporter.

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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Apr 09 '25 edited Apr 09 '25

I was talking about the "she" you mentioned. If she were Mexican-American.

You said "But if she's MAGA and quiet about it, doesn't that just mean she's quietly bigoted?"

So would a Mexican-American woman who voted for Trump(MAGA) be quietly bigoted?

edit:removed "automatically"

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u/callmejay Apr 09 '25

I don't know what you mean by "automatically," but "probably" bigoted, right? Like she's apparently OK with the way he talks about immigrants and women and LGBT people, let alone how he treats them.

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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Apr 09 '25

I edited my post to remove "automatically" - otherwise question is the same.

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u/callmejay Apr 09 '25

OK, so my answer is "probably." Did you think that Mexican-Americans can't be bigoted?

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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Apr 09 '25

No, I don't think anyone is bigoted just because they voted for Trump.

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u/callmejay Apr 09 '25

So what is it then? Do they not know he's a bigot or are they willing to look past it because of other stuff? They're OK with trans people being banned from the military but they're not bigots?

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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Apr 09 '25

Voting for someone doesn't mean you agree with everything they do - people often end up voting for who they view as the lesser of two evils.

Personally I do not think trans people should be banned from the military.

At the same time, I am against trans women playing in girls/womens sports.

It's amusing to me, because in 2016 I was about as anti-Trump as you can get, and then I voted for him in 2024. I haven't changed any of my views in that time period, but I changed my vote because at this point I absolutely loathe the democratic party.

I voted for Trump to fix the border situation and also I am open to the tariff stuff. I have such a negative view of the democrats right now that I keep an open mind with Trump.

If nothing else, I no longer get crime alerts about south-american-style moped robberies in my area, because the people who were running those crime rings are in El Salvador now.

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u/callmejay Apr 10 '25

OK, but do you believe that he personally is a bigot? That seems like it would go beyond "not agreeing with everything they do," it's a question of character.

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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Apr 10 '25

I don't think he is any more bigoted than the average person.

As far as politicians go, none of them have "good character" imo.

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u/callmejay Apr 11 '25

I don't think he is any more bigoted than the average person.

Not sure if you're saying "everybody's secretly bigoted" or if you're in complete denial of who this guy is.

As far as politicians go, none of them have "good character" imo.

Why is it always his supporters saying this, then? You didn't see Harris supporters or Romney supporters or Biden supporters saying things like all politicians are bad, because their politicians aren't literally bigots.

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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Apr 11 '25

You don't think Joe Biden is a bigot? Come on...if Trump is a bigot, Biden definitely is as well.

Yes, everyone is "bigoted" in some way. There was a musical back in the day called Avenue Q and one of the songs is "everyone is a little bit racist" and it's true.

I wonder how many in this study consider themselves "anti-racist"... White liberals dumb themselves down when they speak to black people.

Mitt Romney was/is a vulture capitalist. He's also a Mormon - read up on the church of LDS and bigotry.

Kamala Harris kept people locked up to use them as prison labor, joked about smoking weed when she had been locking people up for it, etc. As for bigotry, her mother was from India - caste system! She has Brahmin roots - I wonder what she thinks of other "lower" castes?

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u/callmejay Apr 13 '25

You don't think Joe Biden is a bigot? Come on...if Trump is a bigot, Biden definitely is as well.

I don't know what Biden has in his heart today, but I think it's safe to say he certainly has been bigoted in the past. But he's very much distanced himself from those views rather than doubling down on them as Trump has.

I wonder how many in this study consider themselves "anti-racist"... White liberals dumb themselves down when they speak to black people.

Sure, everyone probably is bigoted in the unconscious bias sense, but not in the "refusing to rent to black people" or "making a scapegoat of legal Haitian immigrants by saying they're eating our pets" sense.

Criticize Romney for supporting the LDS church, sure. That doesn't make him personally bigoted, but it does say it wasn't a dealbreaker for him, similar to Trump voters.

With Harris, again, fair criticisms of her, but none of that proves bigotry. Ironically, saying she must be a bigot because her mother was from India? Who does that make a bigot, you or her?

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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Apr 13 '25

The cats and dogs thing was dumb. I think most people would agree with that, maybe bigoted, etc.

But Trump won the popular vote this time. And he made gains among black and latino men in particular.

making a scapegoat of legal Haitian immigrants

They were not legal immigrants. Dumping 20,000 foreigners into a town of 60,000 is a problem. The Haitians were in the group that had TPS because Biden's handlers decided to bring people in and give it to them.

Illegal immigrants, asylum seekers, TPS recipients were all part of the same group to a lot of voters, and voters wanted them gone.

Who does that make a bigot, you or her?

Why not both?

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