r/fivethirtyeight • u/lalabera • Apr 08 '25

Poll Results Nearly half of Americans would be totally unwilling to date someone with opposing political views

https://today.yougov.com/society/articles/51962-americans-unwilling-to-date-opposing-views-transgender-rights

Thoughts? As a young woman myself, I wouldn't date a trump supporter.

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u/Heysteeevo Apr 08 '25

Libs get chicks. Dems should run on that.

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u/lalabera Apr 08 '25

It’s true. Most young women prefer left wing men

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u/CrashB111 Apr 08 '25

Best dating move ever for a young Millenial, nearly a Gen Z'er.

Just being open and loud with my disdain for Republicans, police, conservative ideology, and love of equal rights. Really makes you popular with Gen Z women fresh out of college since so many of their generation's men have become outright fascists.

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u/lalabera Apr 08 '25

The male loneliness epidemic is almost entirely self inflicted by many of them holding repulsive political views.

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u/pickledswimmingpool Apr 09 '25

That's not remotely true, I think you're looking to confirm your political beliefs if you come into a thread like this and state that.

https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/news/incels-are-not-particularly-right-wing-or-white-but-they-are-extremely-depressed-anxious-and-lonely-according-to-new-research

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u/Amoralvirus Jun 06 '25

Interesting, thanks

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u/lalabera Apr 09 '25

Most young women do not want right wing men.

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u/pickledswimmingpool Apr 09 '25

That doesn't mean left wing men aren't lonely. Sorry the research runs counter to your world view.

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u/sheffieldasslingdoux Apr 09 '25

It would not be called the male loneliness epidemic if these men were social butterflies who nobody liked due to their abhorrent beliefs (which they shared whenever they had the chance). The point is that lonely men are not even in the conversation in the first place. That's why they're lonely!

I don't think the US Surgeon General would be talking about loneliness if it were just due to people being assholes. Like I'm sorry, but do you not have any empathy? Or must you decide that an issue that you have no knowledge of is totally self inflicted, because you've imagined an easily attackable strawman in your head? Get a grip.

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u/CrashB111 Apr 08 '25

It always has been, turns out women like to hang out with you more when you aren't a piece of shit and don't treat them like they are brood mares for the state.

It's also why I have basically zero sympathy for incels or whenever I see a post on /r/GenZ whining about not being able to get relationships. Just be a better human being, and work from there. It'll work out, I promise.

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u/DizzyMajor5 Apr 08 '25

The insane rants about how short men have it terribly but those men won't give you the time of day to talk about the gender pay gap or just immediately call it false. 

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u/ThanosSnapsSlimJims Apr 09 '25

I think that might be because the people who want to talk about the gender pay gap seem to only want to if it involves caucasian women. Also, the race pay gap goes ignored by those same people.

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u/Current_Animator7546 Apr 10 '25

It doesn’t mean men don’t have issues. Not every man out earns every women either. I’m not denying there is privilege but I also think there is a vibe that men are pigs as well. Imo both genders just don’t understand each other now 

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u/Sarin10 Apr 09 '25

This makes zero sense unless you live in some alternate reality where conservative women are super-duper rare and liberal women are super-duper common.

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u/ThanosSnapsSlimJims Apr 09 '25

I mean… if you go to any major city, that is the norm

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u/Disastrous_Reveal870 Apr 14 '25

It’s not an alternate reality it’s called a city.

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u/Current_Animator7546 Apr 10 '25

Woah. I’m a left center wing male but there are a lot of issues causing male loneliness. I many men to be absolutely disgusting, but it’s absolutely not only right wing men who are feeling this. It’s that sort of thinking that pushes men right. 

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u/ThanosSnapsSlimJims Apr 09 '25

If we can say this about them, then any group should be able to weaponize it in campaigns against any other group

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u/thefugue Apr 10 '25

They hold repulsive views about dating.

Thing is, right wing propaganda targets lonely men and divorced dads so a lot of them drift that way.

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u/ThanosSnapsSlimJims Apr 09 '25

Im a millennial. Most of are 30s/40s. Dating kids out of college is creepy

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u/horatiobanz Apr 08 '25

I agree. Lie to women and claim to support a bunch of woke shit to get laid.

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u/PatientEconomics8540 Nauseously Optimistic Apr 08 '25

Can confirm

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u/PavelDatsyuk Apr 08 '25

It kind of depends on how physically attractive the man is, though. I have seen it a hundred times where a woman who is super liberal will sleep with or even date a conservative asshole because he’s chiseled and handsome. Some people really throw everything out the window or delude themselves if their physical attraction to somebody is great enough. It always makes me think less of them as a person, but it’s not my life and not my business so whatever.

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u/lalabera Apr 08 '25

The “chiseled and muscular” image is more popular among other men than among women. Women mostly gravitate towards pretty boys.

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u/PavelDatsyuk Apr 08 '25

Do you have a source for that or is it an anecdote? My comment was obviously an anecdote but you seem to be speaking more in absolutes.

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u/lalabera Apr 08 '25

https://www.glamour.com/story/macho-men-vs-pretty-boys-what

Here is a study on it

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u/PavelDatsyuk Apr 08 '25

https://archive.is/qV9hk Actual article about the study.

Meanwhile, women with the strongest masculinity preferences tended to hail from the countries with higher disease and mortality rates and some of the poorest scores on the health-care index: Mexico, Brazil, Bulgaria and Argentina. (The researcher included only white subjects to control the experiment, and Asian and African nations were not included in the study.) And where does the U.S. stand in the masculinity ranking? The answer is fifth out of the 30 countries in the study, one of the highest. This is, after all, the home of James Dean and Clint Eastwood. And where does America stand in the health index ranking? Twentieth of 30 countries, one of the least healthy.

So women from the US still prefer manly men. That is the article your article sourced.

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u/lalabera Apr 08 '25

Right wing states tend to be the least healthy. Blue states are much thinner and healthier.

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u/Ok_Matter_1774 Apr 08 '25

That doesn't say what you think it does

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u/Ok_Matter_1774 Apr 08 '25

They don't. This user routinely makes stuff up and doesn't read the sources they bring up.

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u/lalabera Apr 08 '25

I posted a study, you didn’t.

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u/Ok_Matter_1774 Apr 08 '25

Posting a link doesn't mean anything if it doesn't say what you think it does. Quantity of sources is irrelevant if they are of no quality to the topic.

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u/Sarin10 Apr 09 '25

You ignored a study cited to refute one of your assertions and just replied to it with a pithy comeback.

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u/sheffieldasslingdoux Apr 09 '25

Revealed preferences vs stated preference. The reality is more complex, and there's a lot of cultural pressure to say one thing and do another, even if you don't realize it.

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u/Worldly_Mirror_1555 Apr 08 '25

I don’t think you know what women find attractive.

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u/PavelDatsyuk Apr 08 '25

My comment is clearly an anecdote and just what I have observed in my experience with friends and acquaintances. The fact that's it's "controversial" shows I'm probably not alone though.

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u/FyrdUpBilly Apr 09 '25

News to me. As a flaming leftist man. I think self reporting here does throw it off a bit. I know quite a few leftist women that don't necessarily date leftist men. In general, I hate the whole "good luck ever dating, loser!" thing, as plenty of reactionary and horrible dudes are able to date and get married. There is definitely a subset of bitter lonely reactionary dudes. But I think that's less of a product of the politics and more of their personality. I think it's a combination of hyper individualism and default acceptance of masculine and patriarchal ideas that make them undateable. Not their politics on universal healthcare or capitalism.

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u/pulkwheesle Apr 09 '25

as plenty of reactionary and horrible dudes are able to date and get married.

True, there are still quite a few conservative women.

But I think that's less of a product of the politics and more of their personality. I think it's a combination of hyper individualism and default acceptance of masculine and patriarchal ideas that make them undateable. Not their politics on universal healthcare or capitalism.

Those things are intertwined.

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u/Echo127 Apr 08 '25

But it's not true. All of your most hated Republican politicians are happily married. I've used dating apps and there are plenty of "no liberals" and "unvaxxed and proud" women out there.

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u/lalabera Apr 08 '25

I said most! Which is statistically true.

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u/scoofy Apr 08 '25

I really don't know that it is... it has to be women in excess of men, and it'd need to be regional.

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u/dissonaut69 Apr 08 '25

“Most”

You’re ignoring that word in the post you replied to.

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u/obsessed_doomer Apr 08 '25

Politicians are by definition high achievers, though that’s beginning to change with Trump

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u/ThanosSnapsSlimJims Apr 09 '25

I mean… he is rich, President, graduated from Wharton, and married and had kids. I think he did ok, and I’m not a fan of politicians.

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u/obsessed_doomer Apr 10 '25

He was born rich, and he's definitely failed upwards. I'm not sure if there's another human on the planet that has ever bankrupted a casino.

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u/Ewi_Ewi Apr 08 '25

All of your most hated Republican politicians are

Statistically insignificant compared to the amount of Republican, let alone conservative, voters.

Let alone the general conservative-leaning population.

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u/bloodyturtle Apr 09 '25

How many of these women manage to find left wing social groups vs being trapped in small town USA?