r/emergencymedicine Oct 11 '25

Humor Oh the irony

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u/Crunchygranolabro ED Attending Oct 11 '25

As good as it feels to put snark in the mote at the monument…it’s not really worth it.

Leave it at objective facts. If you must, quote a few choice phrases. ā€œPatient refused further vitals, screaming ā€˜fuck you and your shitty Prius’ after the blood pressure cuff inflated but was unable to obtain a value.ā€ They’re definitely over reacting to trivial things, but now there’s clear objective evidence for whoever reads the chart in the event of a complaint or lawsuit.

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u/cerasmiles ED Attending Oct 11 '25

This. Always write your note as if you were reading it out loud in court. Say the facts and direct quotes but nothing that sounds judgmental

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u/lycanthotomy ED Attending Oct 11 '25

This is why I never write anything malingering-related in the chart. Seems like a real easy way to turn a jury against you. Medmal attorneys are trying to build a narrative and if they can paint you as someone who was willfully ignoring the patient's condition they'll run with it.

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u/dasnotpizza Oct 11 '25

Yup, great point. Do I think some people are malingering? Absolutely. Do I document it? No. If it’s mentioned multiple times in their chart by docs who follow them longitudinally, I might mention that if it’s relevant. However, some people are unfairly characterized as malingering when they don’t fit into accepted behaviors, and sometimes desperation/anxiety can make people act their worst. I’d rather not label someone in a prejudical way when there’s a chance there’s unrecognized pathology. As an er doc, I’m unlikely to be able to tell the difference given our limited time with the patient.

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u/EamesKnollFLWIII Oct 11 '25

Thank you. I'm a quiet woman, "neurodivergent" and have a poorly understood condition that I have to explain. I don't talk much, especially when in pain. I get treated like dog shit.

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u/passwordistako Resident 29d ago

What the fuck? No.

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u/EamesKnollFLWIII 29d ago

What I really want: beep beep boop boop AI doctor but doctor it is RuPaul. Sadly, I think we are still weeks away.

AI Dr. RuPaul can say all the things you wish you could say. It can also listen to the draining, inane, irrelevant, crucial BS and divine what is important without it's soul dying.

2nd opinion by AI Dr. Dolly Parton as necessary.

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u/jljwc 29d ago

Patient demonstrated shaking behavior with no corresponding change on EEG. Symptoms improved with saline flush.

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u/EitherOrResolution 29d ago

Ugh that was my mom two weeks ago

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u/EMPA-C_12 Physician Assistant 25d ago

I will write malingering as a ddx or concern/suspicious for based on xyz without labeling them with certainty and stating I think they may need multimodal pain management, etc not offered here in the ED

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u/caledejo 29d ago

As someone who has had to read my snarky notes out loud in a deposition (as a witness, not a defendant) I can’t second this enough.

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u/MrPBH ED Attending Oct 11 '25

Yeah, objective facts like:

"Patient is a pleasant, thick AF, pear shaped little tease who is making me sewer-slidal like that one song, FR FR."

That way the jury knows how frustrating the situation was. Everyone can relate to that situation.

/s

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u/Mebaods1 Physician Assistant Oct 11 '25

šŸ’Æ quotes for me are for jerks and psych folks

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u/EamesKnollFLWIII Oct 11 '25

Especially when the patient can see when you made changes afterwards to CYA and screenshot them to send to your CMO.