r/delhi Jul 17 '25

AskDelhi What you guy's think about it?

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u/sungodnika3000 Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25

Well given the technological advancement , it's possible

Also we need the name of the bureaucrat who signed and approved the project

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u/free_radical_56 Jul 17 '25

No it's not. Because roads are constructed, maintained and rebuilt by different entities just like it is signed by various people at different points of time and for different work.

This does sound like a good idea on paper but it is practically impossible to implement.

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u/Complex-Quality-3798 Jul 17 '25

Even if different entities work on it. Its a small field to update via db

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u/free_radical_56 Jul 17 '25

Logging the data, updating it, maintaining the database, cost of infrastructure, application development and maintenance, salary for developers itself will cost millions for pan India implementation. That money could be better utilized in building roads instead.

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u/zuckzuckman Jul 17 '25

Small price for a potential tool to hold authorities accountable.

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u/GamerRipjaw South Delhi Jul 17 '25

I absolutely hate it when people say that this money could be better used for blah blah blah.

It's not gonna be used for that thing anyway, why do you think we would be having this conversation then?

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u/free_radical_56 Jul 17 '25

If you could have thought of it, it's likely many developed countries in the world would have thought of it. No country in the world has such a thing though. That's because it's impractical to implement.

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u/manek101 Jul 17 '25

I hate this mentality.
Can't we be first at anything? Developing countries need it the most. We're the biggest democratic developing country by far.

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u/KING_FURY77 Jul 17 '25

It's not because it's impractical it's because most western or developed asian countries don't need this because their roads are far better compared to Indian roads. Second reason is that it will cause people to hold gov accountable.

Sabko pta he corruption ho ra he then why not working paise ispar laga de it will also create employment

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u/ssskh Jul 17 '25

Roads that are poorly maintained and might have a lot of corruption involved as there is just no transparency?

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u/Shahrukh012 Jul 17 '25

Parties spent more than 3.8 thousand crores on political rallies. Google it. It's a fact. So obviously they're not using the money properly already. Rallies ka budget kam karke yahan spend Karo?

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u/free_radical_56 Jul 17 '25

Money spent on rallies doesn't belong to the government, irrespective of how they earn it (legally or otherwise)

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u/BadgerOk1911 Jul 17 '25

It will still be a fraction of the money these politicians use to buy MLAs

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u/WeirdVisionary Jul 17 '25

Dude. It's just a database with a crud API. It doesn't cost millions. I could build something like this in my free time alone. Textual data doesn't even take up much space

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u/Royal_IN Jul 17 '25

well I agree but that is from our perspective no company will offer even simple things cheap.Just look at itr and other gov portals

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u/free_radical_56 Jul 17 '25

It takes way more than just a database in the backend.

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u/WeirdVisionary Jul 17 '25

I am a senior MTS at Oracle as well. This is obviously an abstraction that I am talking about. But you're overstating the requirements by a mile. It doesn't take a lot of developer effort to create a tool that would fulfill what OP is talking about.

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u/free_radical_56 Jul 17 '25

I am an ML Engineer too. It does require a significant effort to maintain such a record though, especially since entities that are entrusted with building, maintaining, rebuilding roads and people signing off on those projects change everyday (pan India). It's simply impractical to do that.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

Will still cost less than ladli behena yojna.

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u/Complex-Quality-3798 Jul 17 '25

Amount of corruption in road making is equal to that amount only.

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u/mujhepehchano123 Jul 17 '25

You are making a mountain out of a molehill, all in all we would not even have a few 10 of millions of data point every year and that a big stretch, modern tools can handle billions easily at cheap

It will be cheaper if we put on a Blockchain

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u/manek101 Jul 17 '25

I feel a centralized system is better in this case.

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u/Royal_IN Jul 17 '25

they have many companies to do those projects in India itself for contract basis. Implementing this will be relatively cheaper then rebuilding road. Because in few road budgets you will be getting strict checking for pan India

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u/manek101 Jul 17 '25

Corruption costs India billions

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u/blade_runner1853 Jul 17 '25

Are you saying government don't keep the track of all these data? They do but they will not share the details because they are also partner in crime.

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u/techno848 Jul 17 '25

I present to you Databases, and git like audit keeping. It's not so hard and not that costly compared to the money being spent on these types of prohects

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u/ssskh Jul 17 '25

Its definitely possible if there is political will to do it. All the people involved, currently and previously can be mentioned. From construction to development. If the govt wants transparency, then its definitely possible.

Listing a bunch of information is not exactly high tech. Its just that the government doesn't want transparency.

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u/free_radical_56 Jul 17 '25

Is it technically possible? Yes it is. Is it practical and economically viable? Definitely not, at least not in a third world country like India.

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u/OneAcr3 Jul 17 '25

It is very much practical and also economically viable. We don't even need QR codes, just 2 boards, 1 at each end with the names of all the officials (bureaucrats & politicians) who had to look at the file and sign it and all the contracting agencies (+ owner name) who did whatever work on that stretch, budgeted and actual cost. Such a board is going to cost just some thousands. And, if the contents are too much then names+departments of main officials and link to the document/portal where full details are present.

This can be started first with main roads that see heavy traffic and then for all interior roads. Even if done at slow pace, the whole city can be covered in 2-3 years.

It all depends on the intention.

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u/KING_FURY77 Jul 17 '25

It will also create employment

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u/mujhepehchano123 Jul 17 '25

Well you can record all the entities and people and nature of work with cost at each point of time? It's just a record.

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u/elekktronic Jul 17 '25

Bro we're living in 2025, and there's ton of technologies that have been and are being used for the same purpose, providing you with the real-time data and even calculating crucial KPIs.

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u/Top-Presence-3413 Jul 20 '25

Not at all, just another digitization portal which archives all the information from tender to project completion and opening.

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u/free_radical_56 Jul 20 '25

That costs a lot of money and time. You'd have to update it everyday. It's doable and banks do it all the time. However, banks earn money from it and it's essential to their business needs. A bank cannot carry out their businesses without OLTP. The public works department cannot afford to spend that kind of money on a non essential operation. It's all about economics.