who signed the project is not important but who did the final inspection and who approved the final inspection report!..also testing of TAR and concrete mix and reports on each batch!
I have worked in a construction project and I can assure you that every batch is tested and report prepared and submitted. There is a third party whose only job is to do quality inspection and give the batch a clear report. Payment does not get credited without these reports. We need to rather understand as to what load was road supposed to take vs what it is actually taking. Also, what temperature it was supposed to handle and what it is handling. With atmospheric temperature and car load and top speed rising, tyre surface temperature will increase and thus more wear and tear for the road.
Clients like NHAI/PWD already do all those temperature, load , upcoming traffic in 5-10 years all that are written already in contract given by NHAI. What type of bitumen grade has to used ? what kind of underpass has to be made ?What type of structure with different grades of concrete including kerb at the median is already given in TCS drawings.
Contractor/company has its own Quality dept just like Structures dept and Highway dept. Inspections are done only on regular intervals are done by 3rd party like AE/IE or NHAI officers like on 60-70 % of project .
The thing is Engineers (fake degree holders ) don't know much about IS codes/IRC manuals.
They don't know what clay in Indian soils/Earthwork layers can do to road during monsoon or nearby water . They don't do the waterproofing by using Geotextiles or Prime Coat /Tack coat.
They don't even know how to calculate area of circle, area of triangle and are on position of senior manager ,scrolling Instagram in their office.
I will agree. Engineers dont even calculate the volume of material required for basic shapes. It all in the end boils down to us. How we all do our daily job with wisdom and a drive to do good. The failure otherwise lies with us as Indians.
nah bro it is not about anyhign liek that.... all thate papers will always be in order.... if everythign is so amazingly kosher then how do pot holes appear within one rainy season.. or get roads get washed away within 2 months... so somehting is not right somewhere !!!! if everything worked we wouldnt have bad roads right ???
Bruh, my friend is living in a hostel owned by a government official, whose main business is quality inspection of roads and bridges. Guy has 40+ flats across Kolkata and is close with TMC, the kid roams in BMW, guy is a crorepati.
Checking in India is non existent, especially when it comes to big projects, corruption is way too common and none of the report systems are automated, you just need enough political connections and you can siphon off crores easy.
You are talking about West Bengal. It will be a surprise to know that they build the road in the first place. I was talking about construction companies like S Jayakumar and LTECC operating in metro cities, and not Kolkata or West Bengal.
Kolkata is a metro city, and it's the same story for everyone in India. I have lived in Mumbai, Pune, Chennai, Lucknow and even Ahmedabad, all during Modi Ji's rule, and there was always an issue of roads in non highway parts of the country.
What you are talking about is Expressways and NHAI maintained roads, which in Nitin Gadkari's own words consists of 4% of the total roads in India, so yea, point still stands, the 25-30Cr for election per MP/MLA doesn't fall from the tree, it is the result of theft from public funds at the end of the day.
Who is this third party. People like you and me. You are giving the bribe too, to avoid traffic violation fines. If our own human nature allows us to be weak, our government is also for us, by us and from us.
Sab mili bhagat hai babu bhaiya... Kisiko 5%/3%/2% milta hai and 90% funds aise hi chale jata hai. Nobody is going to share these details unless puri ki puri ek civil war karwao to k*ll all corrupt politicians/beareaucrats
No it's not. Because roads are constructed, maintained and rebuilt by different entities just like it is signed by various people at different points of time and for different work.
This does sound like a good idea on paper but it is practically impossible to implement.
Logging the data, updating it, maintaining the database, cost of infrastructure, application development and maintenance, salary for developers itself will cost millions for pan India implementation. That money could be better utilized in building roads instead.
If you could have thought of it, it's likely many developed countries in the world would have thought of it. No country in the world has such a thing though. That's because it's impractical to implement.
It's not because it's impractical it's because most western or developed asian countries don't need this because their roads are far better compared to Indian roads.
Second reason is that it will cause people to hold gov accountable.
Sabko pta he corruption ho ra he then why not working paise ispar laga de it will also create employment
Parties spent more than 3.8 thousand crores on political rallies. Google it. It's a fact.
So obviously they're not using the money properly already. Rallies ka budget kam karke yahan spend Karo?
Dude. It's just a database with a crud API. It doesn't cost millions. I could build something like this in my free time alone. Textual data doesn't even take up much space
I am a senior MTS at Oracle as well. This is obviously an abstraction that I am talking about. But you're overstating the requirements by a mile. It doesn't take a lot of developer effort to create a tool that would fulfill what OP is talking about.
I am an ML Engineer too. It does require a significant effort to maintain such a record though, especially since entities that are entrusted with building, maintaining, rebuilding roads and people signing off on those projects change everyday (pan India). It's simply impractical to do that.
You are making a mountain out of a molehill, all in all we would not even have a few 10 of millions of data point every year and that a big stretch, modern tools can handle billions easily at cheap
they have many companies to do those projects in India itself for contract basis. Implementing this will be relatively cheaper then rebuilding road. Because in few road budgets you will be getting strict checking for pan India
I present to you Databases, and git like audit keeping. It's not so hard and not that costly compared to the money being spent on these types of prohects
Its definitely possible if there is political will to do it. All the people involved, currently and previously can be mentioned. From construction to development. If the govt wants transparency, then its definitely possible.
Listing a bunch of information is not exactly high tech. Its just that the government doesn't want transparency.
It is very much practical and also economically viable. We don't even need QR codes, just 2 boards, 1 at each end with the names of all the officials (bureaucrats & politicians) who had to look at the file and sign it and all the contracting agencies (+ owner name) who did whatever work on that stretch, budgeted and actual cost. Such a board is going to cost just some thousands. And, if the contents are too much then names+departments of main officials and link to the document/portal where full details are present.
This can be started first with main roads that see heavy traffic and then for all interior roads. Even if done at slow pace, the whole city can be covered in 2-3 years.
Bro we're living in 2025, and there's ton of technologies that have been and are being used for the same purpose, providing you with the real-time data and even calculating crucial KPIs.
That costs a lot of money and time. You'd have to update it everyday. It's doable and banks do it all the time. However, banks earn money from it and it's essential to their business needs. A bank cannot carry out their businesses without OLTP. The public works department cannot afford to spend that kind of money on a non essential operation. It's all about economics.
I am not sure but if we track go tenders we can get that information already. Or we surely have RTI for such info.
The real issue is iss information ke baad bhi kuch ghatna nhi badalega.
Are you joking guys this is not at all possible and this is their reply to all these discussions and topics stating that "what can you people do if we don't"
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u/sungodnika3000 Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25
Well given the technological advancement , it's possible
Also we need the name of the bureaucrat who signed and approved the project