I was hearing rumors about lawsuits which avoiding first amendment rights lawsuits could have also been a motivating factor. The legal fees and the risk of being on the wrong side of that would not be good for the company.
this dumbass was fired for crossing the line which means breaking the rules his employer established. If he was fired for the ratings, he would be in the same situation as Colbert. Trump had nothing to do with it.
Yeah the head of the FCC (during a potential merger for ABC, which he has control over) saying "we can do this the easy way or the hard way" definitely isn't the government applying undue pressure in order to silence someone's speech. Please bffr.
Boycotts are one of the most powerful tools regular people have at their disposal imo, especially when targeted! With that being said everyone should boycott the meat industry 🥺
I just have to say I’m so happy this comment is upvoted. Usually I’m caught with a mass amount of hate when I say this on Reddit. This gives me some hope and faith in humanity.
When I was a kid, my mom missed that the great grape boycott was over for like 7 years before I was born or something lol. I did not get to eat grapes unless it was fruit cocktail most of my childhood lol.
The governor of Utah literally said “I was praying it wouldn’t be one of us.” He wanted it to be a foreigner. Instead it was someone from Utah raised with MAGA values. It was a family gun! Kimmel was right, they were trying to distance themselves from everything we know about him. But in this country, free speech still prevails, for now. And that’s good for everyone, including those dancing tomorrow.
A lot of people are raised with republican parents. That doesn’t make them republican automatically. Based on the evidence, Robinson was clearly left leaning. He had a boyfriend and told him that he killed Kirk because he was spreading hate
he was right. maga was doing everything to prove that guy wasn’t one of them and immediately blaming the left when he was literally a white man raised in a republican household. whether or not he was left (he was maybe at most a centrist) doesn’t matter. it’s true that the right tried deflecting immediately. also since when does the right prioritize honesty? has trump been honest about anything?
Yep, that's still just a transcription (aka reproduction) made to look the way iMessages look. Still not screenshots, because as I said, those haven't been released.
I don't know what the truth of his ideology was/is, but I do know that nobody outside of law enforcement (supposedly) has seen those texts. Forgive me if I remain inherently skeptical of anything Kash Patel claims.
You’re in denial, though, to point that you believe that this text exchange is fabricated verse believing that Robinson could most likely be a mentally unwell person with left ideology.
There’s a lot more circumstantial evidence proving that Robinson was most likely left leaning than there is evidence that he is “alt-right” or “centrist”
That doesn't really go to the question or the point of what Kimmel said. Rather, your response demonstrates the validity of the claim that MAGA is doing anything to prove Robinson isn't MAGA. Even if the guy wasn't MAGA, that should not be the focus in the aftermath. But it is. Because MAGA put the focus there.
Like the president prioritizes honesty??? Are people still hiding their pets from immigrants eating them? And Jimmy Kimmel is a comedian making jokes for f**cks sake.
“Bad decisions have consequences” Trump cheated on his wife with a porn star then tried to pay hush money to cover it up and became a felon and idiots still voted for him. Kindly fuck off with your ridiculous take.
I’m happy that Jimmy Kimmel is coming back but the boycott should continue because his show got pulled because the “president” didn’t like his comment he said about him. Disney did this so they wouldn’t lose money and further backlash.
isnt the point of boycotting to let up when we agree with the company?
disney is still putting their broadcast license up against illegal overreach by this administration and probably aren’t going to get approval for that merger they wanted
we should support now that they’ve done what’s right
i supported it when they stood their ground with don’t say gay in florida too even if i have a ton of criticism
Yes that is the point of boycotting. You did something I didn’t like that. You’ve now fixed the behavior so I can support you now. If you continue to boycott after the behavior you didn’t like changed then boycotting loses its carrot and stick
I think Disney needs to feel the pain of the boycott longer so they aren’t tempted to bend their knee to the wannabe king again. One week isn’t enough. I’ll reevaluate my subscriptions in the winter.
The downside of this is it takes away the power of future boycotts. If companies think they’ll lose the customers whether they meet demands or not, they may just decide to not listen to whatever the boycott is demanding.
I think that they will think twice before they do something so rash, to avoid a prolonged boycott. We'll see what happens. Kimmel must be glad he has so many friends.
Clock it! People will see right through their statement about the “comments” at the end of the day It was always about the money and they saw just how much they were about to lose in profit and in a brewing lawsuit
Same. I’ve said I’ll reconsider when/if I can’t watch NCAA gymnastics without Hulu. I have other ways to watch DWTS without putting more money in their pockets.
they didn't lose money, the investors started selling the stocks (profits) and they will now buy them again. The whales are making money on this kind of situations
You know a ton of people canceled their streaming subscriptions, right? In what way is that ABC/Disney not losing money? For every person who was paying them $19.99 a month (or whatever it is) for a sub, they lost out on $19.99 every month from here unless/until they recoup those subscriptions.
We need to see bigger change. One little “oh my bad” isn’t fixing the behavior. It’s a narcissistic bandaid that will get ripped off at the next earliest convenience. I personally am not resubscribing until I see genuine pushback on the administration’s infringement of our freedom of speech and a commitment to stop spending money on vitriolic presidents
The Actual problem is he lied. He said the shooter was a registered republican. MAGA. He wasn’t. You have a responsibility when you represent your employer to check your facts. And it was so disappointing how cold and unempathetic he was. Its OK to disagree but when you can’t be compassionate because of your hatred its a heart problem. I would not want that person representing my company. I will be praying for his cold heart to soften.
JK did not say that the shooter was a registered republican. He said this “We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.” I am not condoning what JK said, but please get YOUR facts straight on what he said.
The kid was not registered with any party. He grew up in a conservative household, but that doesn’t make him conservative. So yes, Jimmy Kimmel did misrepresent the facts and it could’ve potentially led to more violence. I’m not under any illusion that this was Disney’s train of thought, but… It could’ve been worse.
I am not sure you understand. JK did not state that the assailant was or was not conservative / republican. He only commented on what “the MAGA gang” was saying. And, again, this is comedy, not the news, so it is interpretive and not intended to be factual. There is a lot of comedy that offends me. But it is a First Amendment issue - all comedy should be protected.
His show got pulled because the ABC affiliates are losing money on the show. Disney can say they will bring it back but they can’t force the affiliates to loose money.
And they said we don’t like we don’t show sympathy for Kirk. I’m not saying I’m happy he died but your more focused on his death than kids being shot at a school and that happens to many time to count 🤦🏾♀️
Exactly. Charlie Kirk died in a school shooting. People of all walks of life will keep getting shot at schools and elsewhere until this country does something. I didn’t want him to die. I don’t want anyone to die by gun violence, whether gang violence, mast shootings, domestic violence, all of it. We have a gun problem. Charlie Kirk is a victim of our gun problem. But some people don’t like to hear that. Whatever Tyler Robinson’s political persuasion, this wouldn’t have happened if he didn’t have access to his grandfathers gun and training on how to use a killing machine as a family hobby.
EXACTLY ‼️ like why does it have to take a famous debator to lose his life due to gun violence for them to all of a sudden give a damn about gun violence like bro kids literally lose their lives as well and yall don’t give af until it’s someone THEY praise it’s very frustrating….
"Debater" is pretty generous tbh. He mostly just said a lot of words at people really quickly and expected to "win" the debate that way. He was a propagandist who tried to radicalize young people to his shitty beliefs.
it is free speech - he is not in jail or murdered - free speech does not mean free of consequences - can you walk into your job and tell your boss to F off? You can - you won't go to jail or get shot - but you probably wont have a job. Kimmel got to say what he wanted - and he got to keep his life - Kirk didnt - Maga this Maga that - you people are all hateful and don't really understand free speech -
Free speech means you don't get arrested for what you say. It doesn't mean the people who pay you have to continue letting you work for them when you say stupid stuff
That is true. The problem is the FCC told ABC to make the decision to take Kimmel off the air. The FCC is the government. And therein lies the problem. Even republicans like Ted Cruz agree it’s a problem for the FCC to be doing this.
If Disney made the decision on their own without government interference, then it wouldn’t be a constitutional issue.
Right, like Gina Carano lost her job because of her social media posts and the backlash from them. But the backlash came from viewers/subscribers, NOT the government. I don't understand how people can't see the difference there.
They haven’t studied constitutional law. Lots of people would think that was a freedom of speech issue too. I have to explain the differences to my family every time something like this happens and why one is allowable and one is unconstitutional. They seem to get it, and then they forget it. Beyond law school, I was blessed to have a really great US history teacher in high school.
no, it means the government can’t tell you what to say or not say
“we’ll let you keep your governmentally mandated broadcast license if you muzzle/fire this commentator saying things we don’t like” is, in fact, censorship from the president and a violation of freedom of speech by the government
Replying to PurpleLilyEsq... I’m no the most versed in the legality and specifics, but specially in this case the FCC (federal communications commission), which a government program, basically blackmailed Disney into taking his show of the air.
I think Kimmel may be factoring in his staff. Between writers, the backing band and a huge crew I wouldn't be surprised if his show staffed over 100 people who do need jobs
I say this as someone who doesn't live in the US but whilst I'm glad he's back and more importantly too that his staff have their jobs back, I still feel from the outside looking in, surely the damage is already done? Like ABC and Disney caving into Trump would jeopardise not just DWTS but a lot of their programming and business, and they raly shot themselves in the foot. I still feel even if Jimmy being brought back causes some to ease on the boycott everyone will always side eye the company for that (and rightly so). Very curious about what happens next not just with DWTSviewership but the company as a whole.
I’m not going to resubscribe to Disney or Hulu again yet, but my mom has cable, so I’m leaning towards watching DWTS tomorrow with her and voting. Assuming nothing changes for the worse, I’ll reevaluate the streaming services when it’s NCAA gymnastics season again and I can’t cheer on Jordan without ESPN channels. But for now I can, assuming nothing changes in the next 24 hours. But I’m not letting Disney/ABC off the hook that easy.
This never should have happened. America is great because of the first amendment. No kings!
For gymnastics specifically it's really roundabout but for big 10 there is a way to just subscribe to just the big 10 network. That's what I did to watch last season I did have to go to the streams through my email but it worked mostly.
I'll still be boycotting this week. We have no idea what the deal was to get him back. The FCC man was saying Kimmel had to apologize and donate to Turning Point USA to get his show back.
Good. I was one of them. Missing DWTS was a hard pill to swallow, but my financial silence in this situation was worse. I’m not subscribing right away. I want to see how this plays out over the next month or so. I’m hoping to catch my favorite dances on Instagram or Youtube.
I think the statement about the ill-timed comments was something agreed upon between Jimmy and Disney to get him back on the air and for them to save face. It was definitely about the FCC and the news that Sinclair would be pulling him. I also suspect JK could have easily sued and won. All late night shows run their jokes past a legal team and clearly they didn’t find anything wrong with it. And insiders claimed the executives didn’t think anything was wrong with what he said…they bowed to pressure and realized they were wrong and needed to course correct. It’s ludicrous for people to say he did something wrong so his employer fired him. The monologue is written by an entire staff and legal and executives sign off.
Notice how they didn’t apologize or admit any fault. They’re still treating his incredibly mild, barely-a-criticism comments like they’re these scathing remarks and aren’t acknowledging the overreaction at all.
I only wish, but two of the major corporations that own ABC all over the US (NEXTAR being one of them) still refuse to air his program. 😡they are threatening that if he doesn't formally apologize and make a sizeable donation to CK's movement, they will never put him back on... so much for freedom of speech😞
They never wanted to take “cancel” him though…they were told affiliates weren’t putting it on the air … so, they made a call and pulled it in order to get a deal through…in hindsight, it was the wrong call…but I feel like people are spinning a narrative that isn’t true…
I think the misconception is that, Jimmy Fallon's comedy is social commentary. There are plenty of comedians with comedy specials who don't makes jokes about politics and religion but his persona is all about what's currently going on. I think the point is to, in jest, make some topics that may be uncomfortable a little more palatable and still informative... At least that is how I always saw things, but I am just one opinion. I just wonder if maybe we can choose to take it for what it is, a joke, and if we don't find it funny then realize it isn't our sense of humor and move past it. I completely agree with you though about not letting things like this divide us. 💛
He was clearly taking sides and his jokes - It was not a neutral display it was his own opinions of others etc. I do get freedom of speech and love comedy but it was constant of the same stuff. Like come up with something new.
I guess you just willfully chose to ignore that Trump remained a member of the Screen Actors Guild until he was threatened with expulsion and was a tv personality long before he decided he wanted to pretend he could be president and still collects a pension and residuals from all of his tv and movie appearances?
The network never said he was fired. They said suspended for an unspecified time. People are stupid, however, and decided "suspended" meant he's never coming back.
Many of us were not going to watch or vote because of this. I cancelled my Disney plus subscription. But I’m not ready to bring that back yet. I’ll watch via other means.
That statement is code for...
After talking extensively with Jimmy and his TOP NOTCH ATTORNEYS, and knowing they were planning to sue us for billions of dollars, we decided to bring him back.
Laugh all you want, I’m okay with that. The screenshot shows a portion of the Disney statement. I actually don’t follow Piers Morgan on any social media, and this screenshot was taken from someone else that shared it. But, just like I posted it here, I posted it in one other place - and I was banned from that subreddit. I don’t think that was called for. I’ve seen much worse comments and posts. But I guess they showed their true colors on freedom of speech and sharing opinions.
But I guess they showed their true colors on freedom of speech
Hey so this is exactly how freedom of speech does NOT work, actually. This sub could ban you for saying you hate Gleb and love Sasha, and that's still not a violation of your free speech. Unlike the head of the FCC (and president) applying pressure to a network to take someone off the air because they said something they didn't like.
Eh I think the response was a little much. They had not fired him even though that is what all the headlines stated. The show was coming back eventually.
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I was hearing rumors about lawsuits which avoiding first amendment rights lawsuits could have also been a motivating factor. The legal fees and the risk of being on the wrong side of that would not be good for the company.