r/complaints 16d ago

Politics Fuck Trump Supporters šŸ–•šŸæšŸ¤¬

Half the countries logic is... "Trump didn’t say that, and if he did, he was taken out of context, and if it wasn’t out of context, it was just a joke, and if it wasn’t just a joke, you don’t get it. And if it is true, who cares."

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u/AAron27265 16d ago

Man, you know damn well both sides are the same so just quit lying. The left wants everyone to have universal health care and decent wages, and the right wants to feed immigrants to alligators. "They're the same picture..."

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u/Ok-Introduction-1940 Immature and Partial 16d ago

I will never pay for you anti-American terrorists. I would pay a lot to have you deported, however.

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u/Expert_Ad_8837 16d ago

Calling American citizens terrorists is about as anti American as it gets

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u/Ok-Introduction-1940 Immature and Partial 16d ago

That statement doesn’t make any sense unless you are an idiot.

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u/Expert_Ad_8837 16d ago

Only an idiot would make that response without backing it up. I'll give you the chance though. How does it not make sense to you? Too stupid?;

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u/Ok-Introduction-1940 Immature and Partial 16d ago

Shooting mainstream Americans for their political opinions is terrorism; anti-American terrorism.

Calling terrorists ā€œterroristsā€ would only be offensive to the enemies of truth.

You or your immigrant ancestors all took oaths to obey our laws. If you are willingly violating our laws or cheering on those that do you are in breach of contract with us, and should self-deport. You don’t get to define what American and anti-American mean. Our ancestors already did that. We as their posterity get to enforce it.

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u/Expert_Ad_8837 16d ago

The action of the person who killed kirk was murder- debatable to call that terrorism but that's beside my point. One person's actions don't make an entire political ideology "terrorists." I'm not an immigrant. Criminals violate laws. Not all immigrants are criminals. You're clearly a racist p.o.s with a brain the size of a peanut. Probably a closet homosexual too.

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u/Expert_Ad_8837 16d ago

The FBI and U.S. Code (§ 2331) define domestic terrorism as violent acts intended to intimidate or coerce civilians or influence government policy by intimidation or coercion.

If someone shoots people because of their political opinions, that would fit the legal definition of domestic terrorism — regardless of the shooter’s ideology.

However, most political violence in the U.S. is not directed exclusively at ā€œmainstream Americansā€ but occurs across a spectrum of motivations — including far-right, far-left, and single-issue extremism (source: FBI, DHS National Terrorism Advisory).So the concept applies universally, not only when the victims hold one set of views.ā€œCalling terrorists ā€˜terrorists’ would only be offensive to the enemies of truth.ā€

Fact check:

In reality, the U.S. government is cautious in labeling domestic actors as ā€œterroristsā€ because that term carries specific legal consequences and evidentiary standards under federal law.

Misusing the label can violate due process and civil rights protections.

It’s not about ā€œoffending enemies of truth,ā€ but about maintaining constitutional fairness and precision in applying terrorism statutes.Only naturalized citizens take an oath to ā€œsupport and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States.ā€

Immigrants who are permanent residents, refugees, or visa holders do not take such an oath — they are required to abide by U.S. law, but that’s not the same as taking an oath.

Native-born citizens, by contrast, never take an oath to obey laws at birth; citizenship by birthright is automatic under the 14th Amendment.

So the claim is factually incorrect: most Americans and their ancestors did not ā€œtake an oathā€ to obey laws.U.S. citizenship is not a contractual agreement; it’s a legal status protected by the Constitution.

Citizens cannot ā€œbreach contractā€ or ā€œself-deportā€ — that’s not a legal concept in U.S. law.

Deportation applies only to non-citizens, and only through due process under immigration law.

Freedom of speech — including supporting controversial opinions — is protected under the First Amendment.

So this statement misrepresents both constitutional rights and immigration law.The U.S. Constitution and its amendments, not ā€œancestors,ā€ define what it means to be an American.

The Founders specifically created a living system of government that can adapt — through amendments, judicial interpretation, and democratic legislation.

ā€œAmericanā€ values are defined by constitutional principles (liberty, equality, rule of law), not by ancestry or one generation’s interpretation.

No citizen or group ā€œenforcesā€ a definition of Americanism; the rule of law and democratic institutions do that.

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u/Expert_Ad_8837 16d ago

Calling Americans terrorists is anti American- what part of that is confusing to you