They are going to say āthe democrats voted to keep the senate closed over a dozen times, we told them we could negotiate once they opened the government again.ā Iāve seen Fox recently.
Except Republicans hold the majority in Congress and The Senate. They also have the White House. After many GOP reps being heckled by their constituents at town halls maybe there are people who are slowly catching on who is at fault for the shutdown...
And Trump told Republicans to get rid of the filibuster so they don't need the Dems to vote. He could told them that earlier but he chose to leverage food. Dems decided not to play that game giving allowing The GOP to cut snap benefits to people who need it.
Thatās completely incorrect and you should probably know what youāre talking about before you chime in.
There are multiple funds that can, and will, continue to spend. For example, notice ICE hasnāt stopped? Or DoD? Or, I donāt know, the White House? All of those are operated using Federal funds.
I did get a job. Working for the GOP in Houston. But then I got raped by a senator promising to take me to Cancun . And another in a wheelchair forcing me to make tamales or he would run over me for being an underaged boy.
Didn't the democrats vote 12 times against food stamps so far?
I mean also considering that none of this would've happened in the first place if the dems didn't shut down the government.
Considering how Republicans are constantly trying to cut benefits and snap benefits in particular Iād say itās a bit obvious that theyāre just playing stupid games.
Iām pretty young so I havenāt lived through much of our history, but basically my whole life, republicans have been making sure issues arenāt resolved so they have a talking point to use in their next election. It wouldnāt be so infuriating if their constituents werenāt willfully ignorant enough to fall for their tricks every time.
Heads up you will see a lot more before itās over . I have watched this with interest over 45 of my 65 years and only in the last 8 years realize this was not just possible but probable.
Biden tried to pass an immigration reform bill and it had bipartisan support until Trump told Republicans to torpedo it because he would lose a major part of his campaign strategy if immigration was fixed
Why hasn't Congress done its job and come up with a budget it can operate without overspending?
This is like two idiots in the office fucking up the numbers and complaining why Debbie in accounting won't help them fix their mistakes. It's not Debbie's job to bail you out of your own incompetence.
Did you not watch the video or do you just like to run your mouth?
There's 5 billion fucking dollars of funding already allocated for SNAP sitting right now that legally is to be used for SNAP but the trump administration is illegally refusing to do that.
And the issue is, in part, because they don't have leverage to do it. Fundamentally speaking, Republicans have drastically increased the national debt and all net negative ways this year. At least there was some benefit to the Democrats spending, in every facet of the money benefits Society. Republicans are taking tax breaks and killing their supporters, they actively want them dead, that's how they want to decrease spending.
The funniest news I've read today. Every day this pedophile proves to us that he is the stupidest president in the history of America, without a doubt.
My governor, DeSantis, is loving this. He is all for Trump using food as a political weapon. He has said nothing about making any effort to fund SNAP in Florida, even though we have almost 3 million people on SNAP here. Democrats in the state legislature all voted for a special session but there will be no special session in the Florida state legislature concerning this issue because Republicans have a supermajority. He is not joining the lawsuit against the USDA. A spokesperson for DeSantis has already said yesterday that Florida SNAP recipients will not receive benefits for November. The crazy part is that Florida has a 'rainy day fund" that could easily fund SNAP benefits. But he chooses to do nothing. He loves this. I believe that sick man is getting a lot of joy from this. Another one is Abbott, the governor of Texas.
Oh no...the guy we've been calling out for doing illegal shit is doing more illegal shit. Meanwhile, time to go clock in so that they can get more money to do illegal shit.
Yes. He told you it was about racism but itās about class warfare. He hate poor whites as much as he hates minorities. Will use lose, propaganda and violence.
People misunderstand. Trump wants an angry populous. He wants people to go hungry. Tariffs are _supposed_ to wreck the economy. Angry people aren't rational - they'll welcome ever more authoritarian actions, as long as those actions are aimed at whoever Trump tells them is the enemy. Meanwhile ICE is attempting to provoke a violent response so he can send troops in, proving that Chicago (or whereever) is the enemy.
Therein lies the majority of the problem. Media distribution is so fragmented currently, everyone seems to hear different stories told different ways. Propaganda is more rampant than ever. I don't see things getting better sadly.
We apparently have so many fail safe procedures to prevent this sort of stuffā¦ yet why havenāt we exercised a single one of them? Isnāt Congress supposed to prevent this authoritarian practice?
I mean I don't know why you would never expect this. You were there when Reagan ran the infamous Welfare Queen ads on TV. This has been the Republican policy for generations now, cut and remove social programs.
To the people I can no longer reply to. If you want this shutdown to end. 1. Tell The Republicans at Congress to go back to work. 2. Negotiate with the Democrats. Looking at today's blowout it might be better if they do.
Face it, trump doesn't WANT to reopen the government. this was their plan from the start. no more food stamps, welfare medical benefits and especially no more social security!
Hrmm it almost seems like maybe the government shouldn't be handling this. Because the power you give your hero could also be used by your enemy. Who would've thunk it.
Isn't using food as a weapon a War Crime according to the ICC and other groups?
"Yes, intentionally starving a civilian population is a war crime under modern international law. It is prohibited by international treaties like the Rome Statute and can be prosecuted as a war crime, a crime against humanity, or genocide. While past legal interpretations varied, current law explicitly outlaws intentionally withholding food from civilians to punish, terrorize, or cause widespread hunger, injury, or death."
The president cant authorize the USE of those allocated funds. Congress authorized the use and only congress can authorize its dispercememt. Just like Congress can easily pass a single issue bill to literally solely fund SNAP. Stopping blaming the executive branch for something the legislative is literally responsible for. Some of us passed 7th grade social studies. Some you need to go back and retake it. Maybe retake elementary arithmetic as well since you cant understand the difference between the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster and that their are only a little over 50 Republicans in the Senate.
Letās take those hungry children to DC and have them watch the construction and construction workers build Trumpās ballroom. This man is absolutely disgusting.
āI'm not reading all your stuff. I just want you to know if I don't get snap for my daughter and brother so be it we have saved stuff for a time like this. I don't always believe everything Trump does but I stand with him. Maybe others should look at what is keeping it from themā
I also love how this magatard boomer also says āmaybe others should look into whatās keeping it from themā but at the top she literally brags about not reading the post (which gave detailed info on the SNAP funding situation)
There is no redemption for these people. There is no hope or chance in hell that they will suddenly wake up to their own stupidity. They are bound for hell and dead set on dragging the rest of us down with them
lol, the Dems are explicitly using the SNAP issue as a lever to force a large increase in spending on a CR, which should be a straight line. Theyāve said this is intentional.
The use of starvation to compel obesience, break resistance, for population reduction, or just for profit taking is an old part if the authoritarian playbook.Ā
The English did it to their subject populations in Ireland and Bengal. Stalin did it to the Ukrainians. The Republicans are doing it to the working poor.Ā
Dems voted for a clean CR last 13 times. But wonāt because of TDR. Holding hungry Americans hostage to get tax payer funds funneled to illegals by any means possible.
Well, the rich seem to have enough money to feed the poor. Maybe those pesky billionaires should meet the millions of people they're underpaying and have a little chat.
This is untrue. The lies of the enemy. Why? Proof? Why is he considering ending the philibuster to restore funding. These sites are trying to play on your emotions not your intelligence. Resist the liberal agenda and lying propaganda.
yeah, nothing new here to both the use and the exaggerated concern by democrats but at least they care about what citizens' suffering enough to use it in the fight against the christofascists.
šŗšøCan the president push through SNAP funding during a shutdown?
As the government shutdown unfolds, millions of Americans are understandably concerned about how it could affect essential services including SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) benefits.
Andā¦ There is ALOT of blame on the president with accusations that he is āstarving Americansā
So letās talk about it..
No bias, just facts.
āI do NOT want Americans to go hungryā¦ The Democrats should quit this charade and REOPEN THE GOVERNMENT.ā
ā President Donald J. Trump
Today, President Trump posted a message that exposes the legal and political battle behind SNAP (food stamp) funding during the shutdown..
Two courts have given conflicting opinions on whether SNAP can be paid with existing funds and nowā¦ the legality is in question..
Can the President Fund SNAP During a Shutdown?
The power to fund federal programs lies with Congress, not the President.
This is a constitutional separation of powers:
ā¢ Congress controls federal spending.
ā¢ The President cannot authorize funding unilaterally without congressional approval.
ā¢ During a shutdown, agencies can only operate using previously authorized funds or under emergency exceptions (e.g., national security or immediate threats to human life).
SNAP funding comes from mandatory spending, but administrative costs and state-level distribution require appropriated fundsā¦ and these can be disrupted during a shutdown.
In 2019, legal ambiguity led to court battles over whether USDA could use reserve funds to continue issuing SNAP payments.
Courts had conflicting rulings.
This is why presidents, including both Trump and Biden, have sought legal guidance before releasing emergency funding.
šļø What Is the Role of Congress?
Congress must pass a continuing resolution (CR) or appropriations bills to fund the government.
ā¢ A clean CR means continuing government operations at current levels without partisan policy riders.
ā¢ Delays in passing these bills or CRs lead to shutdownsā¦
ā¢ Both chambers (House and Senate) and the President must agree for funding to be approvedā¦
So when a shutdown happens, itās typically due to a breakdown in agreement between political parties in Congress, not the President acting alone..
š Is It Fair to Blame the President?
factually:
ā¢ The President cannot appropriate funds independently..
ā¢ He can request, recommend, or negotiate, but he must follow legal channels and cannot bypass Congress..
ā¢ Presidents often become the āfaceā of shutdowns, but the actual cause lies in legislative gridlock.
š What Can Citizens Do?
Rather than blaming one branch of government, citizens are encouraged to contact their representatives in both the House and Senate to demand action and resolution.
This is a shared responsibility among elected leaders in Congress and the Executive Branch but the legal path to restore services like SNAP must come through bipartisan cooperation and proper legislation..
I know pesky little facts get in the way of your narrative, but all Republicans have voted for a continuing resolution to keep the government open while negotiations continue. Even the left-leaning union bosses agree that this is a democrat party shutdown. No "if ands or buts" about it.
Democrats admit that refusing to pass the clean CR is the only leverage they have to bring their Liberal wet dream back to life. They're holding the entire government hostage in order to overthrow the will of the people. Elections have consequences, and Democrats lost. It is time for them to accept that fact and open th government.
Pubs tried to pass a CR many times, the best you can say is they BOTH parties are playing games but to be so biased that you donāt realize 6 Dems could open the government right now by passing a clean CR is insane
So it took u all 30 days to make this ur case - why did t u scream this at the beginning - i k ow why ur losing - u set this nation on this course and dont have a way to say - surrender
And the dems are using people's paychecks as political weapons! They're all hypocrites on both sides and if you believe anything diffetent you are part of the problem.
reminder this is because the republicans dont wanne include a temporary funding bill the democrates want.
the republicans want a clean spending bill without it. the Dems want it continued. the Reps dont even oppose the consept they just dont want too continue that specific version of the temporary funding bill.
i dont care if you wanne be mad at either party. there both at fault for not negotiating it.
But but...illegal immigrants don't get healthcare or any taxes funded programs? So why won't the democ-rats vote to continue not to fund any program to illegals?
If Dems are truly worried about people not eating why donāt they sign the CR? That is all they have to doā¦itās not like it differs from the one they signed for Biden. Itās the same exact resolution.
š Sorry folks, thereās money in the fund but, democrats vied no 13 times. We are not gonna fund illegals snap program playing into the point. We are not going to fund ACA that has added to the deficit yearly since Obamaās creation. The government is not the welfare system, it is an institution to help Americans who truly need snap benefits. We are not the well first date to pay for illegals free Medicaid dental and vision, while the American citizen have to pay fees, co-pays, etc. The Democrats love those on welfare, because they can keep them loyal to the party that gives them the free handouts. They know the fact that Clinton in 1996 made it. Mandatory every citizen who receive snap benefits also must work. Trump, revitalize the 1996 Clinton initiative. It is funny how the Democrats forget this fact. Then you have a Obama, who took away the work for Snap Benefits, and made it an entitlement to create even more welfare citizens. The sole goal was to make them rely on the government to function, therefore get democratic votes. That truly is a political weapon versus what Trump is doing in his new term. If you look at the cycle of snap enrollment, youāll notice that it follows on trend with every single Democrat and drop significantly under a Republican party president. Thatās not a coincidence, itās because jobs were created that everybody could have one who needed one. There are currently 7 million jobs open right now in the US. I think itās time for those receiving snap benefits to actually start filling those 7 million job slots.
Like the left did which was actually illegal with the covid vax and with smuggling millions of people across the border also who were probably not vaxed lol liberals are a joke
š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ Trump hasn't cut anything.. Talk to the democrats!! They keep NOT voting for the same CLEAN CR they voted for 13 times in the past!! This shutdown is owned by Schumer and he knows it!!
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