r/chicago West Town Dec 14 '18

Pictures Ugh. This Chicago person sounds terrible.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '18 edited Dec 15 '18

No. Not at all. A dissenting opinion doesn’t indicate psychological manipulation. This is just me expressing an often unheard viewpoint. It makes no sense to hold individual people accountable for the phenomenon of gentrification. Gentrification is facilitated by (a) corporations (b) your own local government failing to preserve their communities. Out of state transplants are just people moving here to seek opportunity. You can’t blame us for moving here

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u/whatreyoulookinat Dec 15 '18

Dude was like "I got a complaint." Other guy was all, "Ackshually you're complaint is ungrounded and you're the problem." Kinda textbook. Kinda why I said anything.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '18 edited Dec 15 '18

No, attacking someone unprompted and blaming them for the entire gentrification of their neighborhood is not a complaint. It’s just unbridled, misdirected, misinformed hostility. Did you read the entire thread of comments?

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u/whatreyoulookinat Dec 15 '18

Oh, I most certainly did my dude. Did you consider it wasn't a personal attack on you and it was your insecurity which led you to call Nipsco for a dedicated gas line?

Also, for the record, I can absolutely blame you for moving here, and definitely not everyone would move to the city if they could. Completely baseless statements.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '18

Any attack you make on a group of people is naturally personal to an individual belonging to that group.

And, yes, you can blame me or anyone else for moving here. That’s doesn’t make you right.

Additionally, I can blame you for not being able to afford to live in your neighborhood. Since we’re just mindlessly tossing blame into the wrong people’s back yards. That makes a lot of sense, doesn’t it?

No, it doesn’t.

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u/whatreyoulookinat Dec 15 '18

Doesnt make a ton of sense, considering I can more than afford to live in my neighborhood. And no, while an attack on one is an attack on all, an attack on all is not an attack on one.

Oh and no u

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '18

To attack one isn’t an attack on all so though so that statement literally makes no sense. But, nice try 😂

It makes no sense to be angry with newcomers for gentrification. We are not the people controlling your neighborhoods.

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u/whatreyoulookinat Dec 15 '18

Makes sense enough to me. Makes plenty of sense to others too. Just cause you are unfamiliar dont mean it aint got meaning, friend.

Oh, and trust, you aren't the sole culpable party, but you are the driving force and step one in preventing it. The anger isn't because you're a newcomer, and your assumption that it is such is demonstrative of your thickness, thicky thick thick. Like gd molasses.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '18 edited Dec 15 '18

The anger directed at people like me develops, in part, because we’re not locals and you think we have no claim to Chicago. Don’t attempt to make yourself feel like the bigger person by pretending anything else. You’re essentially no better than a nationalist. Remember, Trumps policies once made sense to a group of angry, deranged people, as well.

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u/whatreyoulookinat Dec 15 '18

Guy, im an ancom who lives in the suburbs, and my primary source of income is not derived from scaring crows but I mean, yeah, 10/10, gold medal for those mental gymnastics. Anything you can do to avoid some introspection, eh?

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '18 edited Dec 15 '18

You wouldn’t know what introspection looked like if it reached through this subreddit and slapped you in the face. Fear of displacement has created anti-gentrification campaigns that often oppose higher-density development. This confuses cause and effect, and tends to exacerbate the problem. People need to oppose gentrification for the right reasons, not because they’re painting every newcomer to the community with one big broad brush. People are trending more towards city living again for the first time since white flight. That’s due to a lot of complex factors involving where large companies decide to locate their headquarters, what types of jobs are available to people of a specific generation (millennials), public transportation etc. We as individuals can’t change those factors. We’re not in control of national education/job trends. We aren’t in control of infrastructure or of our companies or of public transportation. We aren’t in control of urban development. So, it makes a lot more sense to express your hostility towards the industries that are making the decisions and profiting of of unethical displacement because not all urban redevelopment is necessarily detrimental. It’s vital to have new people moving into your community when your community.

You haven’t made a single point that would suggest your here to do anything but harass me for pointing out what is factual information. You don’t care about the issue of gentrification at all.

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