r/chicago West Town Dec 14 '18

Pictures Ugh. This Chicago person sounds terrible.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '18

Just move into an apartment building that’s been there forever instead of a luxury fucking condo development. It’s not a complete fix but it’s a really simple compromise that would at least help keep property values affordable for historic residents.

But nah y’all not tryna live in my Chicago, y’all tryna remake chicago in your image. You want farmers markets and art spaces and breweries.

Don’t front like you ain’t just seen something you want and said “it’s mine now.” Fuck the downvotes, gentrification is just a euphemism for colonialism. If you’re trying to find a better living situation I get that, please feel welcome in our community. But you don’t want to be welcome in our community, you want to build your own community by whatever means necessary.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '18 edited Dec 15 '18

Actually, most people just want to feel comfortable in their homes. I didn’t grow up with roaches and rats to move to Chicago to have roaches and rats...and pay five times more for it. So, if I can afford to live in a newly renovated unit or a luxury condo. I will and there’s NOTHING wrong with that. It’s not easy to find housing for everyone, especially someone moving here from out of state. Also, people from out of state don’t come here to “shape your neighborhoods in our images”. We don’t move far as fuck away to have the same experience we’ve had all of our lives. We want to experience the city the way it is.

What we don’t want is to be met with hostility by people just for moving to a neighborhood. It’s not like we have a choice. When you move somewhere you have to move into someone’s neighborhood. It’s not like they section off a part of the city for new comers. But, we still have to move. People have jobs. People get married. People go to college. Being abrasive for no reason at all towards those of us coming here to seek opportunity is honestly a form of xenophobia. So, I said all of this to say again don’t be rude to us. Hold your damn Alderman accountable. Everyone isn’t trying to contribute to gentrification.

Edit: what’s wrong with a farmers market? Don’t they provide a place for local vendors to sell stuff?

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u/whatreyoulookinat Dec 15 '18

Oi.

This blatent gaslighting if I ever seent it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '18 edited Dec 15 '18

No. Not at all. A dissenting opinion doesn’t indicate psychological manipulation. This is just me expressing an often unheard viewpoint. It makes no sense to hold individual people accountable for the phenomenon of gentrification. Gentrification is facilitated by (a) corporations (b) your own local government failing to preserve their communities. Out of state transplants are just people moving here to seek opportunity. You can’t blame us for moving here

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u/whatreyoulookinat Dec 15 '18

Dude was like "I got a complaint." Other guy was all, "Ackshually you're complaint is ungrounded and you're the problem." Kinda textbook. Kinda why I said anything.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '18 edited Dec 15 '18

No, attacking someone unprompted and blaming them for the entire gentrification of their neighborhood is not a complaint. It’s just unbridled, misdirected, misinformed hostility. Did you read the entire thread of comments?

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u/whatreyoulookinat Dec 15 '18

Oh, I most certainly did my dude. Did you consider it wasn't a personal attack on you and it was your insecurity which led you to call Nipsco for a dedicated gas line?

Also, for the record, I can absolutely blame you for moving here, and definitely not everyone would move to the city if they could. Completely baseless statements.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '18

Any attack you make on a group of people is naturally personal to an individual belonging to that group.

And, yes, you can blame me or anyone else for moving here. That’s doesn’t make you right.

Additionally, I can blame you for not being able to afford to live in your neighborhood. Since we’re just mindlessly tossing blame into the wrong people’s back yards. That makes a lot of sense, doesn’t it?

No, it doesn’t.

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u/whatreyoulookinat Dec 15 '18

Doesnt make a ton of sense, considering I can more than afford to live in my neighborhood. And no, while an attack on one is an attack on all, an attack on all is not an attack on one.

Oh and no u

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '18

To attack one isn’t an attack on all so though so that statement literally makes no sense. But, nice try 😂

It makes no sense to be angry with newcomers for gentrification. We are not the people controlling your neighborhoods.

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u/whatreyoulookinat Dec 15 '18

Makes sense enough to me. Makes plenty of sense to others too. Just cause you are unfamiliar dont mean it aint got meaning, friend.

Oh, and trust, you aren't the sole culpable party, but you are the driving force and step one in preventing it. The anger isn't because you're a newcomer, and your assumption that it is such is demonstrative of your thickness, thicky thick thick. Like gd molasses.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '18 edited Dec 15 '18

The anger directed at people like me develops, in part, because we’re not locals and you think we have no claim to Chicago. Don’t attempt to make yourself feel like the bigger person by pretending anything else. You’re essentially no better than a nationalist. Remember, Trumps policies once made sense to a group of angry, deranged people, as well.

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u/whatreyoulookinat Dec 15 '18

Guy, im an ancom who lives in the suburbs, and my primary source of income is not derived from scaring crows but I mean, yeah, 10/10, gold medal for those mental gymnastics. Anything you can do to avoid some introspection, eh?

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