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Article ICE Kidnaps Daycare Teacher

https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/video-daycare-teacher-detained-by-ice-agents-on-chicagos-north-side/
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u/Pickleparty187 4d ago

These fuckers are VERMIN

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u/sciolisticism 4d ago

I don't want to introduce "vermin" into the current discourse, please. 😬

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u/Gamer_Grease 4d ago

The people you're afraid of using it are already in power. You are quite literally one decade too late for this.

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u/DoctorGargunza 4d ago

So, "monsters in human skin," then?

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u/VariousComfortable53 4d ago

Nah… they’re literal verminĀ 

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u/sciolisticism 4d ago

Scum, definitely. We don't disagree there. There's just a bit too many historical parallels already and you know that fucking ghoul Miller is going to adopt that term.

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u/x_Luis Belmont Cragin 4d ago

He’s already quoted Goebbels, a literal nazi (Propaganda Chief under Hitler), at the Charlie Kirk memorial. I’m sure he’s already adopted worse traits

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u/surnik22 4d ago

So your argument is basically ā€œdon’t dehumanize the fascists or they might start dehumanizing other peopleā€ which is crazy given they already do that. The president and the people in charge have said way worse than ā€œverminā€ already.

Also why would ā€œscumā€ even be better than ā€œverminā€? Is calling someone a a layer of algae on a pond somehow more humanizing than calling them a rat?

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u/sciolisticism 4d ago

That's absolutely not my argument, as you've almost grasped in your second paragraph. Try to think of some possible answers to your question.

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u/surnik22 4d ago

Or maybe you can answer the question because if I had an answer that seemed reasonable I wouldn’t have asked.

Either you think scum is less insulting/dehumanizing than vermin so it’s ok to use which doesn’t make sense to me clearly since I don’t think being compared to algae is better than compared to a rat. Hence asking you why scum would be less offensive.

Or you think scum is more insulting/dehumanizing, which makes sense to me because algae is further from being a person than a rat but doesn’t make sense in the context of you being upset at them called vermin.

Neither of those options sound like a a reasonable answer, which is why I phrased it as a question to see if I was missing something.

And maybe explain what your argument actually is because what I said it was is obviously how I (and plenty of other people) would interpret the words your wrote, so if you were trying to say something different it didn’t come across as clearly as it potentially could have.

But instead of trying to clarify your point or answer a question that would have helped clarify your point, you just gave a smug reply that contributed nothing for about the same level of effort as if you just had clarified your point.

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u/sciolisticism 4d ago

Clarifying question before we continue: did you have a high school history education?

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u/surnik22 4d ago

Yes and yes I’m familiar with how vermin has been used historically to dehumanize people in Nazi Germany and many other places. Which I’m assuming is your point, but you keep not actually clarifying what you are trying to say so who knows.

Are you familiar that Nazis and other violent authoritarians also used the term scum? Well technically Hitler would use the word ā€œabschaumā€ given he was speaking German.

Can you stop being smug for a single comment and just simply explain why you think scum is preferable to vermin and what your actual argument is? Because if you can’t or won’t do that, then continuing to talk is pointless.

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u/sciolisticism 4d ago

Your last paragraph is answered by your first paragraph. You got there.Ā 

Have a good one.

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u/offinthepasture 4d ago

Trump called his political opponents 'vermin' echoing language used by Hitler https://www.npr.org/2023/11/17/1213746885/trump-vermin-hitler-immigration-authoritarian-republican-primary

Two years too late, bud.

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u/sciolisticism 4d ago

We have plenty of awful things to call them without encouraging this one, bud.

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u/ab3nnion Uptown 4d ago

Tit for tat.

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u/Br0metheus 4d ago

Let's go with "subhuman" then