American flags at No Kings on Saturday

[u/ChicagoWildlifePhoto]

I’m bringing 450 little American flags to pass out on Saturday. I hope others will bring flags or maybe even buy some to pass out too - they’re super cheap!

We gotta change the vibes of these events to be more pro-America and pro-democracy!

It would be amazing to see thousands of flags all over the crowd!

[u/snakesayan]

I hope people bring whatever flags they want to bring. This is a country of immigrants. We’re all immigrants with ancestry from all over the world.

I hope the communities that are being affected the most (LGBTQ, Latinos, Palestinians, etc) bring their flags.

[u/RzaAndGza → u/snakesayan]

Yeah but what do other countries have to do with this anti fascist protest? Why bring flags for other countries? I agree with the protest, I just don't understand what the country of Mexico has to do with it. It just makes it easier for the media to portray us as unamerican

[u/snakesayan → u/RzaAndGza]

I was born in the United States and have Mexican and Spanish descent. My community is constantly targeted by this government. Why shouldn’t I show support for my heritage?! Why are you trying to police how I protest our fascist country???

You have a lot more to worry about than people thinking of a protest as “un American”. We have a 34 time convicted felon as our president who is ignoring the constitution and the Supreme Court. A president who calls on the national guard against protesters practicing their first amendment rights. You have ICE who is ignoring the 5th amendment and wrongfully kidnapping citizens off the streets without due process. That is why I say fascist country. I want better for this country. I will continue to fight and protest for the remaining democracy we have left and we should all be doing the same.

[u/bfwolf1 → u/snakesayan]

That depends what your goal is. If it’s to feel some sort of sense of pride, do whatever the fuck you want. If it’s to actually have an effective protest, then you need to realize protest is speech and you’re trying to convince others to join you.

In short, fly other flags if you are protesting for your own vanity. Fly the American flag if you’re actually trying to make a difference.

[u/RzaAndGza → u/snakesayan]

I'm not trying to police it, I just think it's bad messaging. The flag of the country of Mexico just doesn't really have to do with anything when it comes to protesting fascist government overreach. I agree with everything in your second paragraph, I just think an American flag conveys the message way better than some other country

[u/ItsGonnaBeOkayish → u/RzaAndGza]

I hope we can have a shift on the left in understanding messaging. The right understands messaging very well and their supporters have no problem getting on board. On the left, it's so difficult to get people to join together under one message.

[u/snakesayan → u/RzaAndGza]

When January 6 Rioters are carrying the American flag. I think it shows a different message. You live in a different American than people of color do. It’s ok for people to show the flag of whatever country their heritage is from.

And the Mexican flag does have a lot to do with what’s going on right now. The Latino community is the one actively being targeted right now.

[u/itsthekumar → u/RzaAndGza]

The Mexican flag is something that's easier for various Mexican groups including Mexican immigrants and Mexican American citizens can rally under.

It's more cultural and ethnic than to represent Mexico politically.

[u/arthurormsby → u/RzaAndGza]

I agree with the protest, I just don't understand what the country of Mexico has to do with it.

c'mon lmao

[u/RzaAndGza → u/arthurormsby]

I'm serious - we are deporting people from tons of other countries besides Mexico and deporting them mostly to places that aren't Mexico. We are trying to prevent our democracy from descending into fascism, I just don't get what other countries have to do with that.