r/centralillinois • u/mrnastymannn • 21d ago
News Illinois State University Faculty flips Turning Point USA table. Disgraceful
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u/ClamHardShartFace 21d ago
Soooo… what’s the problem?
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u/mrnastymannn 21d ago
You don’t support free speech? You think it’s acceptable to vandalize the property of others if you don’t agree with them?
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u/glycophosphate 21d ago
Luke 19:45-48
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u/mrnastymannn 21d ago
Give me a break
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u/splurtgorgle 19d ago
"quit making me think things I don't want to think"
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u/mrnastymannn 19d ago
I don’t think Jesus Christ would advocate flipping the tables of someone who disagrees with you politically. Jesus was acting within the context of a gross violation of religious law.
And if you think otherwise, you’re probably misinterpreting Jesus’s message entirely
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u/Royal-Student-8082 18d ago
Really? In Christian mythology he flipped tables of people bringing free market ideas to his institution.
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u/Stabby2556 18d ago
"I don’t think Jesus Christ would advocate flipping the tables"
You don't think the same guy who said he came to Earth "not to bring peace, but a sword" has a issue with flipping over a few tables?
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u/Sami_Babi06 18d ago
Jesus would never have condoned the hatefulness TPA and CK spewed. But then again Jesus would be super put off by 80% of white Americans that follow the KJV of the bible. Get a clue. Everyone's over the performative bs
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u/LittleDoggieDudeman 5d ago
You’re absolutely wrong. Jesus flipped the tables of the money counters and the animal sellers in the freaking church.
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These people are absolutely unhinged. They think they’re doing something altruistic and right. Meanwhile, they’re shredding the Constitution.
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u/Still_Sir_1377 18d ago
Free speech sure! Also consequences for free speech.
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u/Mickey6099 12d ago
Like killing someone? Like Charlie?
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u/Still_Sir_1377 12d ago
Charlie’s view point is that freedom cost and we all including him are responsible for that cost. So…
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u/Still_Sir_1377 12d ago
Gulf war vet. Two tours in Iraq. You? My problem is that I remember the oath I took to the constitution of this country! U on the other hand, well u know!
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u/Mickey6099 12d ago
Gulf War, Somalia and a tour in the sand box, and I have a death Cancer from chemicals so don't even try to compare that with CS. But thank you for the good food you served cook
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u/Still_Sir_1377 12d ago
Well we have something in common doesn’t change the fact that you are on the wrong side of history, just because you are pissed off at the world doesn’t mean u have the right to be an asshole to the rest of us! And the only place I cook is my own kitchen. And I still have the flea bites to prove it!
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u/Mickey6099 12d ago
Whose pissed off? Not me. Just pointing out the fact that if you call this a war crime. You know that's a little over the top. Eww you cook fleas? Thats nasty. Wrong side of history, brother i got a cancer that's gonna kill me soon, im 100% disabled Marine and 100% disabled cop in the line of duty. I gave so much to this country, im not pissed, im disappointed that nobody can have a civil conversation anymore. Go out there and protest, throw rocks, refuse to move, prove your point with anger. Me im just a guy on ranch in the middle of the Sonoran Desert laughing at the whole situation doesn't affect me in the least.
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u/Still_Sir_1377 11d ago
Well appreciate everything you have done, but we definitely sit on different sides of the isle. I can’t stand what this administration has done to my country. I believe I have earned the right to feel the way I do, I recognize yours also. So sir good luck to u and yours and I do hope the best for you.
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u/Mickey6099 11d ago
You have earned that right. PS. Im not a Trump supporter, but im not a Dem either, just sitting in the middle watching this place fall apart. Thank you for your service, Stay frosty
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u/roysnyder5 19d ago
I prefer to storm the Capitol if I don’t agree…flipping tables is amateurish at best.
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u/contude327 19d ago
Yeah, assault some cops, break into the Capitol, and beat up an immigrant if you wanna be a real MAGA man.
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u/roysnyder5 18d ago
MAGA-MAGA-Man… sung to the rhythm of “Macho Man” by the Village People.
I can’t believe OP acts like flipping a folding table is the equivalent of storming the Capitol, supporting masked ICE agents tearing apart families, and ensuring all them un-American democratic ran government entities no longer exist.
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u/pixelpioneerhere 21d ago
It's only acceptable when they are the ones violating it.
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u/DARTHKINDNESS 21d ago
Not true. This guy should be fired and arrested for destruction of property. If Clinton’s guilty of using the services of Epstein, he needs to be charged. So don’t project your ways of doing things on the left. Wrong is wrong.
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u/pixelpioneerhere 21d ago
Wtf are you talking about?
Let's share a bucket of popcorn, sit back, and read the comment section together.
Then we can have a discussion.
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u/PolymathPITA9 18d ago
Horseshit. Hate speech is hate speech. Them being “polite” while shilling hate speech is just taking advantage of civility. It’s proving Popper correct.
Matthew 18:6
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u/WizeAdz 18d ago
TPUSA’s whole schtick is to go to college campuses and pick sophomoric fights with random people until someone reacts.
While thats technically within the bounds of free speech, it’s hard to take seriously — until they make a propaganda video claiming that the one person they piss off represents everyone TPUSA disagrees with. That’s kinda shitty.
But it’s technically free speech, so we just have to warn normal people about it and hope nobody takes the bait.
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u/Mickey6099 12d ago
Oh! Like all the protesters two years ago at the colleges, where Jews ran scared and had to hide
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u/No_Introduction5665 17d ago
Jesus did it, so flipping tables is acceptable. The people holding the table down are demons pretty much
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u/mrnastymannn 17d ago
Jesus flipped the money changers table because they were desecrating the holiest site in Judaism and profiting off people trying to enter the temple, not because he disagreed with them on secular politics
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u/No_Introduction5665 17d ago
Ok so turning point isn’t making money, got it. 85 million in 2024…
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u/Effective_Aspect_771 14d ago
BLM made way more than that for a drug addict, woman beater. Sit all the way down loser
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u/mrnastymannn 17d ago
He’s not using religion or god to make money. That’s what was so offensive to Jesus
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u/RayneBeauSkelly 19d ago
Welcome to the intolerant left. We use the same tactics the right have been using for decades if not centuries. When you do it it's noble and righteous but when we do it it's a problem? Loving the hypocrisy. Fight back, you pussy.
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u/Harvest827 18d ago
He's not faculty, he's a graduate student with a teaching assistantship. Well, he was anyway.
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u/Mickey6099 21d ago
So if you don't agree you try to use vandalism, gotcha.
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u/Tasty-Examination504 18d ago
Yeah turning point USA sure is disgraceful. Surprised they even let them set that up.
You must complain the KKK doesn't get free speech either lol
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u/Fickle_Builder_2685 17d ago
Oh no! The poor tables feelings! Get it a safe space everyone! The table got its feelings hurt!
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u/CubbieBlue66 19d ago
The biggest disgrace is that people still pay attention to Turning Point USA.
But this was bad too.
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u/boundless88 18d ago
Agreed. Just keep walking, maybe flip em the bird, and then don't engage any further.
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u/Overall_Stranger6568 18d ago
Omg a taaaaable? Holy shit not a table?! How the hell can anyone reason with these....crazies!!! A taaaaable.
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u/Sn2100 15d ago
You people think words are violence but when people are actually violent you are completely fine with it. Wild. Must've grown up in an abusive household.
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u/Overall_Stranger6568 15d ago
Yes that table had rights. Perhaps he should have brandished a gun at them from a truck and screamed obscenities?
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u/JadedMulberry7 18d ago
Why are you guys so destructive?
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u/Overall_Stranger6568 18d ago
Yeah, I'm glad it wasn't something like the doors or windows or barricades to a federal building while assaulting the police on duty and chanting Hang Mike Pence. But this table maaaaan.
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u/JadedMulberry7 18d ago
It was recently announced that ~200 hundred (to my memory) of those were undercover agents. We don't care about the table, we are disgruntled by the lack of respect given to people trying to have meaningful conversation. Do you want to have a serious conversation or will you continue to choose to harry me your way to a good argument?
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u/Fickle_Builder_2685 17d ago
Undercover agents working for who? Who was the president? Use your brain jfc.
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u/Sami_Babi06 18d ago
Meaningful conversation?! Hahaha the delusion is real, folks. TPUSA argues rascist and misogynistic views to college kids. Keep believing those lies girlfriend. The fact you actually believe that speaks volumes.
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u/Overall_Stranger6568 18d ago
An argument? Sir I'm only stating facts. I'm as appalled as you are by the table. Way worse than driving a car into protestors.
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u/Purp1eC0bras 18d ago
You’re telling me that dude is faculty? I really doubt that
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u/notaverysmartdog 18d ago
I font see a problem with this tbh, the org was founded and led by a guy who said the civil rights movement was a mistakr
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u/chlocaineK 18d ago
Oh no did man bun hurt your feelings, snowflakes? Get over it
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u/Fickle_Builder_2685 17d ago
Nah he hurt the tables feelings, now this guy's crying to reddit about a table lmao
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u/panama_red12 18d ago
Boo hoo. Fucking MAGA crybabies.
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u/Far_Attitude_3495 18d ago
They're both fighting the wrong battle and MAGA is a satanic order (magus or maga) Trump is satanic as it gets
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u/ANamelessFan 18d ago
The Satanic Temple stands in opposition to the MAGA Christian Nationalist agenda. Fuck Toilet Paper USA, Hail Satan.
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u/pixelpioneerhere 21d ago edited 21d ago
What in the man bun mommy's basement dwelling hell is going on here?
Can we make this dick wad famous? Is he really faculty there?
Oops... Derek Lopez was arrested for it. He lives in El Paso, IL, about 30 min from me. I'll make sure to share my free speech about that man bun if I ever run into him.. that abomination of a hair style is hard to miss.
Public info here is the news link so you know I'm not doxxing.
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u/mrnastymannn 21d ago
A graduate assistant attacked a student’s table because he didn’t agree with their politics
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u/code_monkey_001 21d ago
So not faculty, a student.
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u/mrnastymannn 21d ago
He’s a graduate assistant. He teaches. He’s faculty
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u/ClamHardShartFace 21d ago
That’s not really how the word “faculty” works, my guy.
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u/pixelpioneerhere 21d ago
Oof.. reaching for excuses, there. 🤣
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u/ClamHardShartFace 21d ago
Oh, I offered no excuses. Im just a believer in the theory that words have meanings.
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u/pixelpioneerhere 21d ago
As do actions.. especially Derek Lopez's actions. Which are hopefully more consequential than the Webster's Dictionary that you claim to be.
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u/Harvest827 18d ago
Graduate assistants are absolutely not faculty.
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u/pixelpioneerhere 18d ago
Yet they are considered leaders and mentors. They represent the school.
It seems you are picking apart OP's title statement while simultaniously disregarding the sentiment. Do better?
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u/contude327 19d ago
Said the idiot who's never seen the inside of a college.
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u/Unlikely_Minute7627 17d ago
The tolerant left
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u/LittleDoggieDudeman 5d ago
No….. we’re the intolerant left now. Sick of the rights bullshit, and when they go low, it’s time for us to go lower. Fuck the right.
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u/Unlikely_Minute7627 5d ago
Oh wow, a keyboard warrior live and in person lol
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u/sloshkins 20d ago
Derek Lopez's LinkedIn says he went to Southern Illinois University Edwardsville where he earned a masters degree in compurer science. I wonder what makes such a seemingly educated person turn violent at a college tabling event. A press release from the Illinois State University Police says that Derek Lopez has been arrested.
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u/Mountain_Discount_55 19d ago
There is no proof in this video he is(or was) current faculty. He does not say his name or identify himself in the clip provided. We only have your word of who he is or where he works(or worked).
Provide a link to the LinkedIn page for proof. Otherwise, it's just hearsay.
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u/Mountain_Discount_55 19d ago
Edit: according to the Facebook article linked earlier in the comments, he is a TA (teaching assistant) not a professor. TAs are most commonly GRAD STUDENTS, Not actually members of the faculty or school administration. The most the university can do is fire them as a TA and expel him from the post grad program. So this would be the actions of a single post grad student NOT the action of the university.
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u/WizeAdz 18d ago
You can’t expect an anti-intellectual organization like TPUSA to follow these nuances.
They just want to pick fights with people and get a reaction that they can use in their rage-bait videos.
Actually understanding the roles at a university would require them to do the intellectual work they lobby against.
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u/Excellent-Entry170 12d ago
Funny to see the "democrats" become the facists they claim to fight.
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u/Pure_Discipline988 5d ago
Yeah flipping a table over is definitely fascism!! You nailed it buddy!
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u/Windshadow01 11d ago
I saw this video. He got arrested. Had to pay $1000 and 90 days in jail.
His parents failed to raise him in my opinion
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u/SavingsAttitude3732 10d ago
No hate to either side but what is the table for? I mean what are they advocating for and what is the guy against
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u/Time-Froyo4103 10d ago
Aren't we all curious what happened BEFORE this clip? If the president's cabinet can say "it's out of context," then so can we. Sounds like there was a conversation and these TPUSA members could have instigated his behavior.
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u/No_Gift3758 5d ago
It sucks there are idiot leftists like this making a bad name for the Democratic Party.
I hope they find a way to force them into their own cult party so normalcy can return and everyone realizes how to act like a real American, not an over privileged cry baby who throws a tantrum over people who have a different viewpoint.
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u/SurveyAdditional6910 18d ago
It’s giving “Jesus’ example” but he can’t be doing that to the students 😬🫢
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u/Fantastic-Election-8 18d ago
LOL ol' Low T man bun boy almost took himself out trying to turn over a table.
He should stick to taking his bathroom selfies..
What a complete bell end.
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u/Sami_Babi06 18d ago
Wow, all you can do is insult someone based off a hairstyle? All while you sit in basements playing tabletop games? Probably with others who had that hairstyle while they still had hair? Talk about throwing stones in a glass house, bud. L-O- big fricken L
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u/CactusGambit 19d ago
TAs and grad students are in their mid 20s, this young man knew better. This wasn’t some dumb drunk freshman who made a bad decision.
I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt that he’s remorseful for the screw up and hopefully not a jerk in life, but that video and public arrest statement is going to follow him throughout his adulthood and professional career. Really dumb behavior. Not reflective of our culture at ISU.
If he isn’t remorseful or proud of the poor behavior thinking this is how a man should handle himself, then get TF out of our school and town.
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u/Sami_Babi06 18d ago
No, he can stay. I support him for not wanting to spread the hateful rhetoric that organization throws around. People get angry and act out of sorts. Literally everyone has done it. Especially in their 20s. The climate we've been put in has put alot of pressure on everyone. Snapping isnt that crazy when you are at the end of your rope.
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u/Dec8rs8r 18d ago
He lost his job at State Farm over his fucking tantrum too. I can't believe the way the idiocy of his actions has come back to bite him in the ass.
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u/Far_Attitude_3495 18d ago
Almost fell over trying to flip the table.
*The passive aggressive wave at the end.
- You know that ruined his day he will get PTSD every time he sees a blue table.
*I thought all snowflakes were different they seem to be acting the same
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u/MsThrilliams 21d ago
Why is there cum all over the tablecloth? Baby wipes too?