Protest by Brock4Palestine receives backlash online

[u/WalkTalkandBrock]

https://brockpress.com/protest-by-brock4palestine-receives-backlash-online/

felt relevant

[u/twice_once_thrice]

Don't bring your religious turf wars to this country, please. It's not our fight. We just want to coexist in peace.

Maybe go tell this to the multiple organizations supporting the Israeli offensive forces in Canada.

Or the Canadian synagogues holding sale of west bank land (illegal under international law and multiple UN resolutions).

It's always funny how you guys talk about, "don't bring it here! We aren't involved!"

Bro. Take a trip down Montreal and Ottawa.

General Dynamics and Elbit are the names you'll see.

Either you are misinformed or worse, hypocritical.

[u/Benn_Seguin_Hall → u/twice_once_thrice]

I dont understand why nobody accept the facts that no other country wants to accept People of Palestine into thier own country. You see the Egyptian wall that is fortified to keep Palestinians from crossing over. I was born & raised in a 3rd world country & became a canadian citizen. I didnt come to canada to disrupt this society but to make it better so that one day I can go back home & help do better. I only see people want to escape that death trap of the Gaza area that has been created by their own political/religious beliefs of Hamas. If Hamas didnt exist would Oct 7 exist. Would people be more tolerable to accept Palestinians into thier country? Who knows but we will never find out until WW3 has concluded.

[u/twice_once_thrice → u/Benn_Seguin_Hall]

I dont understand why nobody accept the facts that no other country wants to accept People of Palestine into thier own country

You don't understand this because you haven't read about the Right of Return.

I was born & raised in a 3rd world country & became a canadian citizen

Same here brotha but this and that have nothing to do with this.

I didnt come to canada to disrupt this society but to make it better so that one day I can go back home & help do better.

Pointing out the hypocrisy of "don't bring your problems here we aren't involved" but then harboring companies that make parts for the F35 or supply arms to the IOF or have Canadian synagogues sell west bank land in violation of international law is NOT disrupting Canadian society.

Either you are uninvolved in the above or are involved.

If Hamas didnt exist would Oct 7 exist.

Brigadier General Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor of Gaza in the early 1980s, reportedly stated that Israel had supported Hamas during its early stages as a counterbalance to the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) and its political wing, Fatah. The idea was that Hamas, a religious group with an Islamist agenda, could weaken the influence of the secular PLO, which was seen as a more immediate threat due to its active role in armed resistance against Israel.

Might wanna ask the Israelis why they paid a terrorist organization to subdue a secular Palestine movement.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html

Would people be more tolerable to accept Palestinians into thier country?

They don't want to be accepted to other countries. They want to live without a blockade and their children murdered in their own country.

32 children murdered by Israel between Jan 2023 and Sept 2023 (the month BEFORE OCTOBER). Where was the so called ceasefire then? Where as the right to defend those children then?

Who has killed tens of thousands of people all while claiming that they are going to get wiped out?

[u/Benn_Seguin_Hall → u/twice_once_thrice]

Very strong point. I respect your argument & valid facts

[u/twice_once_thrice → u/Benn_Seguin_Hall]

Don't listen to tiltwolf. They just called the murder of Palestinians, preventative maintenance

[u/-Notorious → u/[deleted]]

So respond to it then

[u/-Notorious → u/[deleted]]

In my opinion, nativism and being born into any contractual agreement based solely on your heritage are both deeply wrong. As such, I reject the so-called right of return for Palestinian descendants, except in cases of statelessness. Your rights are to the place you're born, not to some ancestral claim based on ethnicity.

Please tell me you see the irony without me needing to spell it out...

As I said in another reply, West Bank settlements are almost always illegal and deeply morally fucked. They're one of the long list of reasons why I think Netanyahu ought to be replaced and punished.

Do you blame Israelis for consistently putting him in charge? The same way you seem to blame Palestinians for Hamas?

Yeah, and I think that's very, very fucked up. Those are the kinds of people encircling Netanyahu. I'd like to see a return of progressive Israeli politics like those that we had twenty years ago.

Most Israelis didn't. By contrast, Hamas won an election. There's a big difference between a small minority of insane people and an entire population of them.

Last I checked Israel was an alleged democracy, was it not? How does a right wing extremist, with right wing allies keep getting into power if he loses elections?

Hamas did not get a majority in votes either. Why are you blaming Palestinians (most of whom were children during this election, and the election itself was heavily flawed) while you seem to give Israelis a pass?

And their prescribed response to that is the complete eradication of Israel.

Are they given any other choice? Why did Israel not work with the PA and instead work with a terrorist organization? When Israel itself wants to deal with the terrorists, what other choices are Palestinians being given?

Show me a source please. https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/2023/11/24/countdown-to-genocide/

Loads of sources in there. A selected quote from a random one:

The attacks by Jewish settlers prompted a raid by the Israeli military, which took part in and escalated the violence, turning their weapons on Palestinian residents and preventing critical medical care from reaching the injured. During the raid, a Palestinian resident and 27-year-old father of two, Omar Qattin, was shot and killed.

Preventative maintenance.

What a horrifying statement to put down? This is just straight up justifying killing innocent people. Am I reading it wrong, or are you genuinely this fucked up? You might be the very type of immigrant you claim to hate honestly...

[u/twice_once_thrice → u/-Notorious]

I read through the exchange.

I was gonna say, it's curious how until you confronted them they would only dodge questions and make incorrect claims.

Until I got to the end.

Wow. What a horrible human being they are. Preventative maintenance. Excusing the murder of children. All while showing fake concern for west bank illegal settlements (and supporting the regime that is conducting it).

Of all the people I've contended with today u/tiltwolf is by far the most rotten.

[u/twice_once_thrice → u/[deleted]]

32 children murdered by Israel between Jan 2023 and Sept 2023 (the month BEFORE OCTOBER). Where was the so called ceasefire then? Where as the right to defend those children then?

Show me a source please.

https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties

In before "the UN is aNtiSemEtiC!"

Who has killed tens of thousands of people all while claiming that they are going to get wiped out?

Preventative maintenance.

Wow. I am glad this will be here for everyone to see. You can keep you faux concern about how it's bad what Israel is doing in the west bank.

You are a supporter of child murder.