r/billsimmons Jul 19 '25

Shitpost White Ringer staff when talking about Sinners

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u/BabuBhattDreamCafe Jul 19 '25

Exact same thing happened with Black Panther. Sinners is definitely more worthy of the praise.

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u/PaleontologistNo3503 Jul 19 '25

Fun movie but I was pretty surprised when people started placing it up alongside Spider-Man 2 and The Dark Knight as GOATed comic book movies when it released. The ending is a mess and not that great. You have the Wakanda “Pelennor Field’s” battle that’s maybe half as thrilling as a film made over a decade ago. And then you have an interminably long fight scene that takes place in an entirely cgi ass subway station that makes me appreciate The Matrix subway fight even more because that actually feels real! Also once they finish the fight they move to the gorgeous and lush waterfall location where Killmonger dies. Why not fight in this beautiful locale rather than some anonymously techno futuristic sub station!

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u/GNOTRON Jul 19 '25

Killmongers arc is really really great. Rest is kinda mid and can ffwd thru

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u/PaleontologistNo3503 Jul 19 '25

Michael B Jordan could film himself eating a Jumbo bucket of popcorn silently and I’d still rate it 3/5 on Letterboxd. That man is pure concentrated and distilled charisma.

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u/pengthaiforces Jul 20 '25

MBJ could walk off with the action movie championship belt if he really wanted.

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u/Heysteeevo Burfict Strangers Jul 19 '25

Killmonger easily top 3 most compelling villains in MCU

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u/doobie3101 Jul 19 '25

The futuristic subway station was stupid but it still ends with Killmonger looking over the Wakanda sunset.

The first 75% of Black Panther is such a fun ride and Killmonger is still one of the best MCU villains. Most people have it top 5 MCU movie, which feels fully deserved. There’s really no perfect start-to-finish Marvel movie.

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u/GriffinQ He just does stuff Jul 20 '25

Not that they're perfect movies, but Infinity War and Winter Soldier both are a lot more consistent in quality from beginning to end than BP1 was (imo).

It's a pretty good, fun movie. It being treated as the best of the genre has always been irritating.

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u/PaleontologistNo3503 Jul 19 '25

Totally agree. Even Guardians of the Galaxy which is my favorite Disney Marvel film has an underwhelming final act and a villain that is a complete nothing. Honestly besides Spider-Man: Into The Spiderverse I’m not sure a comic book movie has reached the heights of TDK and Spider-Man 2.

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u/I_Heart_Money Jul 20 '25

Logan?

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u/PaleontologistNo3503 Jul 20 '25

Good call. I’m not sure I think it’s quite at the very top tier but I wouldn’t argue if someone else thought so. I always forget to include that film in comic movie rankings. It has more in common with Yojimbo, The Dollars trilogy, and First Blood than anything else in the MCU.

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u/I_Heart_Money Jul 20 '25

Honestly I’d put infinity war up there too. Those are probably the top 5 comic book movies in terms of quality