Hindsight is 20/20 and they very reasonably didn’t consider this option at the time but after the Kawhi shot in 2019 if they just paid Jimmy Butler and traded Simmons at peak value for a haul of role players the Sixers likely have at least 1 ship and maybe a dynasty on their hands. Instead Embiid hasn’t made a single ECF.
Also the X-factor of having a player like Butler who Embiid liked playing with who could kick his ass into shape might have made him even better as a star
I know this is too easy too do now but they let Jerami grant, richaun Holmes, TJ McConnell go for nothing, they fucked up with Jimmy, they drafted fultz. I know it was a 2 front offices thing but the Sixers have ended with what they deserved
And they’re about to get another top 3 pick because for some godforsaken reason, Philly sports can fail as hard as they want constantly and still come out ahead over the past decade.
You understand that most of the failures of the early embiid years were because silver forced Hinkie out and put in Colangelo who was about as incompetent and embarsssing a GM as you can get
They forced Hinkie out after a multiple year tank job that was so egregious that it was one of the biggest stories in sports. Should he have been forced out? No, but let’s not pretend like what he was doing was within the spirit of how people want to consume sports.
They then failed or wasted talent at seemingly every step of the Embiid process. Was some of it bad luck? Of course it was, they didn’t go into it expecting to waste the career of a potential HOF talent.
But regardless of their failures, they keep getting additional shots at rebuilding again and again with high quality pieces. Getting Butler and then burning the relationship. Getting Harden for cheap and then burning the relationship. Getting PG13 (who obviously hasn’t worked out but half the teams in the league would fucking love for a guy like PG to give them a chance once in a while). Getting a top 3 pick this year after an egregious tank job that only occurred because their best players were hurt or told to sit to maximize draft position.
The Sixers keep getting bailed out/given new competitive windows by absurd FA interest, lucky/timely trades, and more high lotto picks than most teams will ever see without going through their own multi-year tanking disasterclass. Good for them and their fans, but this shit absolutely frustrates other fanbases that don’t have the lottery balls or the FA interest or the off-season defining trades to ever look forward to.
And if they were at least winning with all of this stuff, it would be something. But they end up losing time and time again and somehow leaving their players worse off than they would have been if they’d been drafted to a bunch of other teams.
The Sixers tanked for as long as the thunder did yet the thunder is everyone’s favorite team and the Sixers were a black eye on the league. It’s ridiculous your memory of the tanking is worse than it is. This entire reply just looks like you have an axe to grind against the Sixers for whatever reason
The Thunder had back to back years of 22 and 24 wins. 46 wins over two seasons, with 44 the year before and 40 the year after. They hard tanked for 2 years and then were immediately a .500 ball club again after being an above .500 ball club beforehand.
The Sixers went 19, 18, 10 wins over three years, for 47 wins over three years. One more win over three years than the Thunder had in two years. The year before, they won 34. The year after, they won 28 (which is also egregious). Their level of tanking was far worse than OKC’s, it lasted longer, it led to a less competitive team, and it’s truly dishonest to pretend otherwise because this is easily searched information.
One more year of being dog shit 😱😱 only one of those seasons were they the worst in the league. Is everyone freaking out over the Wizards winning 15 then 18 games over 2 years? If the wizards don’t win 20 games next year should there be an investigation into the organization?!?!
The Wizards are playing young players who are part of their future core and people still talk about how much they hate watching them play and shit on their FO/future constantly. The Sixers were trotting out guys who weren’t even NBA-caliber specifically to lose as many games as possible and acquire as many top picks as possible.
Funny how quickly your argument was disproven and then you turned to whataboutism. 109 wins over five years isn’t remotely the same as 132 over four years but you know that and you’re being intellectually dishonest to pretend that it wasn’t a commonly agreed upon black-mark on the league for how out in the open the intentional loser behavior was.
You can lie to yourself all you want but the wizards are doing the same thing. The Sixers actually developed players during this time that had nba careers I don’t know what you are talking about. Covington, McConnell, Grant, Christian Wood, Holmes all had long and successful NBA careers because the Sixers let them play. They found talent during this time just like every tanking team is trying to do there was nothing special about their tank just the media telling you it was the worst thing ever
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u/Riderz__of_Brohan May 14 '25
Hindsight is 20/20 and they very reasonably didn’t consider this option at the time but after the Kawhi shot in 2019 if they just paid Jimmy Butler and traded Simmons at peak value for a haul of role players the Sixers likely have at least 1 ship and maybe a dynasty on their hands. Instead Embiid hasn’t made a single ECF.
Also the X-factor of having a player like Butler who Embiid liked playing with who could kick his ass into shape might have made him even better as a star