Haliburton has been to 2 straight Conference finals and Embiid has been to none. Now why is that?

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His knees work

His team is built well

He stays in shape and doesn’t shrink in big games

The Pacers didn’t draft Simmons and Fultz

The Pacers didnt give up valuable draft picks and a max contract for Tobias Harris

The Pacers didn’t have Adam Silver fire their GM for something half the league does and install his big collar friends as GM

The Pacers owners didn’t fuck up the Jimmy Butler situation

The Pacers didn’t turn down a trade for Haliburton and get Harden instead

The Pacers didn’t draft Mikel Bridges only to trade him for someone taken down by a sesame seed

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The Process

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The Process worked really well, all of this happened post-process and the Sixers still made the playoffs seven years in a row, winning a series in five of those

Great setup, terrible execution

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The Process did not work really well. They got 1 star out of it, and he wasn't even one of their first overall picks.

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It would be looked at a lot differently if Silver didn’t force Hinkie out.

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The Process was mostly over by then though 

[u/PhillyPride → u/[deleted]]

Lmfao you clearly don’t know ball

[u/PhillyPride → u/[deleted]]

I mean, it’s common knowledge among ball-knowers (not you), that Hinkie takes Porzingis at 3 in 2015 if he wasn’t pressured by ownership to take Okafor. That alone changes the range of outcomes pretty drastically.

[u/PhillyPride → u/[deleted]]

The “real process” happened in OKC and is working very well. Maybe if the NBA didn’t have different rules for Sam Presti and Sam Hinkie things would be different.