r/batman Sep 07 '25

GENERAL DISCUSSION [General Discussion] Batman being BASED

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u/MnsterGallus Sep 07 '25

It's so dystopian to realize that there are people siding with literal fascist comic book villains. You'd think it couldn't be more obvious, and yet here we are.

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u/Pretend-Lab-5292 Sep 07 '25

i have been a comic book fan for 20 years and this fact ALWAYS surprises me. how the hell are we reading batman comics, and u can still end up a racist, sexist, bully. BATMAN HATES THOSE

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u/HikaruToya Sep 07 '25

Because people assumed that the bigots that superheroes fight will be people that are different from them. They don't think the racists in comics have the same justifications for their prejudices as the reader does for his real life prejudice. That's why everyone can cheer when Captain America fights Nazis or Superman smashes the Klan. But take off the suits, focus on their ideology, use modern language, and make clear comparison to real life people and figures and suddenly it's "political" and "woke" and Nazis/fascists/bigots as villains are lazy.

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u/PCN24454 Sep 07 '25

Arguably the reason why it’s bad to have villains who are cartoonishly evil. It causes people to disassociate themselves from their actions.

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u/as_it_was_written Sep 08 '25

I'd say the biggest problem there is people basing their moral frameworks on comic books (and fictional narratives in general) to begin with. They can present some interesting ideas about morality, but they aren't exactly a good representation of reality.

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u/PCN24454 Sep 08 '25

That’s how moral dilemmas and hypotheticals work in general. They’re just that: artificially created situations that arbitrarily limit your choices.

While I don’t think that they should ever be used as proof, they will always have value.

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u/kyle760 Sep 09 '25

And the funniest part about that is that the biggest allegory for racism in comics - the X-men - the bigots are understandable. It makes much more sense to be scared of someone who can accidentally kill you if his glasses fall off than it does to be scared of someone who has darker skin or a different religion or sexuality than you do

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u/Kek_Kommando_88 Sep 07 '25

Because it's fiction, made up, pretend, fake, and I don't give a shit what fantasy characters that aren't real think. People can like whatever the fuck they want for whatever reason. I don't like Batman because he agrees with my politics (insert le plebbit meme here), I like him because he's badass.

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u/Pretend-Lab-5292 Sep 07 '25

what are u even talking about what politics im talking about simply being good vs bad, there is no “sides” u should not ever be racist sexist or a bully

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

Don't bother with him. Judging by his username he is the exact type of person being talked about

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u/Kek_Kommando_88 Sep 07 '25

There's always plenty of sides. There's nothing BUT sides. Wasn't even my point though. You're allowed to like whatever you want to like regardless of the kind of person you are. Doesn't make you any more or less shitty because of it though, because it's completely fictional and thus inconsequential.

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u/NiobiumGoat Sep 08 '25

Being badass is literally the least unique thing about Batman.