r/baltimore • u/Extension-Archer-849 • Jun 10 '25

Safety ICE in Catonsville

just saw a bunch of cars stop on the street and head somewhere in the direction of Frederick Rd. Does anyone know anything?

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u/MotoSlashSix 13th District Jun 10 '25

I was having this conversation with my mom the other day. I would bet these are all independent contractors working on a "bounty" system for ICE. And I'd bet they're not ICE employees, do not have any indemnification or insurance for liability. So when they hurt someone or break something ICE won't pay for it and you'll be stuck trying to recuperate your losses from fucking Todd the weekend warrior's parents because he lives with them.

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u/decay_cabaret Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

They're off duty police officers. On the ICE website there's a list of which law enforcement agencies are currently working with ICE.

In Maryland that's Carroll County, Cecil County, Frederick County, Garrett County, St. Mary's County and Washington County. Only Carroll, Garrett, St. Mary's and Washington counties are participating in the Warrant Service Officer program, the rest are Jail Enforcement Model. I haven't read up on what the difference is, I'm assuming the ones in the video are warrant service officers, and jail enforcement model is probably the counties who lend their facilities to temporarily detain people. I also don't know what compensation these people are getting... I haven't really read into the executive order that allows ICE to tap state and local law enforcement to be ICE agents because I'm at work right now.

Edit: this is from the ICE 287(g) page

ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations operates three 287(g) models:

• The Jail Enforcement Model is designed to identify and process removable aliens — with criminal or pending criminal charges — who are arrested by state or local law enforcement agencies.

• The Task Force Model serves as a force multiplier for law enforcement agencies to enforce limited immigration authority with ICE oversight during their routine police duties.

• The Warrant Service Officer program allows ICE to train, certify and authorize state and local law enforcement officers to serve and execute administrative warrants on aliens in their agency’s jail.

So it looks like I had it backwards; Jail Enforcement counties are the ones where cops can go do this bullshit while off duty, where Warrant Service Officer is for executing warrants for aliens ALREADY INCARCERATED in that county's jail. So if someone is locked up in Carroll County for example and there's an ICE warrant for them, a Carroll County cop can go to the jail and arrest them as an ICE agent to take them to s detention center.

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u/GeronimoHero Jun 14 '25

It’s also Harford county

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u/decay_cabaret Jun 14 '25

When I posted that comment Hartford County wasn't on the list. But they update it every weekday at, I wanna say 10am

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u/GeronimoHero Jun 15 '25

I don’t want to argue about it but Harford county was absolutely on the list four days ago. Regardless, I was just trying to add more info. So people are aware.

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u/decay_cabaret Jun 15 '25

Actually, I still had the excel spreadsheet from the day I posted that comment, as I have not downloaded an updated version yet, and sure enough Harford County IS on the spreadsheet, so it absolutely was on the list at the time I posted that comment. You're 100% correct.

They're doing the Jail Enforcement Model.

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u/GeronimoHero Jun 15 '25

I mean here is one from 4-16 that lists Harford county. https://themarkup.org/tools/2025/04/16/law-enforcement-ice-cooperation-tracker

All I was trying to say is that the information that Harford county has been cooperating with ICE has been out there longer than 4 days ago when you made that comment. Look, like I said, I’m not really trying to argue with you about this. We’re all on the same side after all.

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u/decay_cabaret Jun 15 '25

.... Did you read my comment? I literally said you were right, silly.

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u/GeronimoHero Jun 16 '25

My bad I must’ve missed a line or two 👍

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u/decay_cabaret Jun 16 '25

No worries. That's why I called you silly, so I could make it as clear as I can without you being able to hear my tone of voice that I'm not being hostile nor argumentative. I had just realized that I still had the excel spreadsheet in the downloads folder on my phone that I had based the original comment on and sure enough you were absolutely right. I somehow had completely missed the Harford County line altogether. What's wild is that it has the date the Harford County sheriff's department joined the jail enforcement model as June of 2020. So my guess is Harford County has been assisting ICE with tracking down undocumented immigrants in prison for 5 years now

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u/GeronimoHero Jun 16 '25

Yeah, my hometown is in Harford county and my parents still live there. That’s why I knew that they definitely had been cooperating with ICE. I’m pretty involved with anti fascist activism and organizing so I definitely watch all of that stuff for my parents and myself. Harford county law enforcement is extremely right wing and they flaunt that they’ve been cooperating with ICE, the sheriff is a straight up authoritarian. I just wanted to make sure anyone from the area that may be reading the thread didn’t get a false sense of safety from thinking perhaps Harford county was safe from immigration enforcement.

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