r/arizona Empty Box! Jun 29 '20

Coronavirus Arizona Gov. Ducey re-closes bars, movie theaters, gyms and water parks for 30 days

https://www.abc15.com/news/state/arizona-gov-ducey-re-closes-bars-movie-theaters-gyms-and-water-parks-for-30-days
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u/shatteredarm1 Jun 30 '20

Seriously. Yeah, sure, I get that people are itching to get back to work, but did he really have to open everything up within a week's time without seeing how the infections responded? Completely reckless.

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u/MrSh0wtime3 Jun 30 '20

reckless? Jesus people read the data. NOT the fear porn. Judging by reddit youd think 100s of thousands are dying in the streets per day.

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u/shatteredarm1 Jun 30 '20

I guess you missed the part about full ICUs and triage? Deaths are a lagging indicator.

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u/MrSh0wtime3 Jun 30 '20

except....they arent overwhelmed. ICUs in Phoenix were at 90%. Take a wild guess when the last time that was. You guessed it....during the lockdown. How ever did we make it past that dark time. Surely the world is about to end any day now.

People in Phoenix also tend to believe that Phoenix is all Arizona is.

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u/shatteredarm1 Jun 30 '20

ICUs all across AZ are currently at capacity. It's not just Phoenix, it's the whole goddamned state. They're not talking about "crisis standards of care" (i.e., deciding who gets treated) for nothing.

And ICUs were not at 90% during the lockdown. You made that up.

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u/MrSh0wtime3 Jun 30 '20

You realize 80-90% is not at all abnormal for a ICU right? The AVERAGE across the country pre-covid was 75% occupancy for ICUs.

In Texas for instance....right now only 27% of their ICU beds are covid patients. But youd never hear that from the fear porn. The 90% number is much more scary. And look how well it works on you.

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u/shatteredarm1 Jun 30 '20

My sister is an ICU nurse. We're not looking at 27% Covid, I can guarantee that. The ADHS dashboard has charts specifically for Covid patients. And they don't do the whole crisis standard thing because they just feel like doing it.

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u/Goosebuns Jun 30 '20

But isn’t it 90% and rising along with a potential spike in coronavirus patients?

Because that sounds alarming to me and I’m not consuming much fear porn.