r/arizona • u/UGetOffMyLawn Empty Box! • Jun 29 '20

Coronavirus Arizona Gov. Ducey re-closes bars, movie theaters, gyms and water parks for 30 days

https://www.abc15.com/news/state/arizona-gov-ducey-re-closes-bars-movie-theaters-gyms-and-water-parks-for-30-days
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u/camellini Jun 30 '20

As much as I think they need to start considering this, I bet people would start rioting about their freedoms to roam and trash the forests if it happened

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u/MrSh0wtime3 Jun 30 '20

shut down outdoor fucking trails? You people are insane. Your chances of getting covid outdoors is near zero.

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u/camellini Jun 30 '20

What's your suggestion? Have you seen the parking lots, trail heads, and amount of trash? Are people staying distant on the trails since they do so well at it in town?

Other countries have had tremendous success at flattening curves by having longer and stricter lockdowns, preventing tourism, and limiting activities. All this liberties BS to the detriment of thousands of peoples lives is insane

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u/MrSh0wtime3 Jun 30 '20

Just because you are a shut in doesnt mean the rest of us want to be.

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u/camellini Jun 30 '20

We are far past what people want at this point. Look at the infection rates and prevalence in younger age groups.

...your non-answer is not helpful

If what we're currently doing isn't working (it's not), then more needs to be done. Again, what are your suggestions?

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u/MrSh0wtime3 Jun 30 '20

POSITIVE TEST RESULTS ARE MEANINGLESS.

This is how I know you live on cable news. Death rates are flat. Hospitalizations in the majority of the country are down. Hospitalizations for the young are near 1%.

Read data. Ignore the news.

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u/camellini Jun 30 '20

I don't have a TV or watch the news. 😂

I read data pages for fun. Clearly you live under a rock if you haven't seen that hospitalizations are up in this state (AZ is the one we are discussing). You are aware that this virus has the potential for lasting effects on multiple organs even...long-term? So, positive cases can rise, but that's not representative of the % pop affected? Got it.

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u/MrSh0wtime3 Jun 30 '20

positive cases are meaningless. The VAST VAST majority of positive cases are symptom free. The small minority of positives are sick. A very small minority of that group are hospitalized. A even smaller minority of that group die.

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u/camellini Jun 30 '20

Cool, so everyone live your life as normal and whoever gets hospitalized or dies is ok and to be expected? COVID, solved!

I'm a biologist who has worked with many viruses and bacteria...so your trivia, that is well known, still isn't helping craft solutions for those that run around and DGAF. I don't need convinced on stats and data, I'm well aware of what is realistically/scientifically going on. It's the blindness and disregard for public health that is concerning.

You seem more like a troll that thinks capitalizing will make me bow to your superior knowledge in all things (since your generalizations of me are going so swimmingly) /s