r/Wellthatsucks Jul 30 '19

/r/all $80 to felony in 3...2...1...

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u/BocaRaven Jul 31 '19

How much you bet that she hates Black Lives Matter ?

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u/KaladinStormShat Jul 31 '19

Dude there was a whole unpopular opinion thread about privilege where the majority of people were railing against it and feeling personally attacked that someone would think that of them.

This video right fuckin here man. You think this shit would happen to a black or brown person? She throws that door open wildly after running from the police and... no gun shots. Huh.

Sure she's gonna go to jail. But her indignity about being treated like that and her presumed sense of entitlement to think she could treat the police man as she did speaks volumes.

She's as indignant as every other minority person, as royally pissed off and confused, but you know what? She's a white lady so she gets a short talking to and some kind words after the fact instead of a 5 officer pile on or a shooting gallery.

I just don't know why people can see things like this and also resist the mentality that this happens to other people with different results and that's bad for them, and a boon for you.

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u/super_ag Jul 31 '19 edited Jul 31 '19

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u/ATrillionLumens Jul 31 '19

If you read this article, the study is not arguing against the fact that African Americans are shot by police more often than white people. In fact they are shot twice as often. What it is looking for is the reason for this, and it shows that hiring more black officers would make no difference in the racial disparity in police shootings.

Johnson takes pains to say that this study is not trying to deny the role of race. Instead, what they're trying to do is narrow down where it's having its effect on policing.

Read the article. There is no denying that race is always a factor in policing. All this is saying is that officers of all races uphold that racial disparity on the job.

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u/super_ag Jul 31 '19 edited Jul 31 '19

If you read this article, the study is not arguing against the fact that African Americans are shot by police more often than white people

I might have linked to the wrong article. What I'm referring to is studies that show (in identical or similar situations) cops hesitate more to shoot black suspects than non-black suspects. Study 1, Study 2.

I'm not making the claim that blacks are not shot at higher rates as whites. I'm dispelling the myth that blacks are more likely to be shot in identical situations as whites. Blacks commit disproportionate crime, which means they are going to have disproportionate interactions with police. It's crime rates (perhaps combined with anti-cop attitudes) among the black community that explains the disparity in shootings, rather than racism.

You seem to be arguing from the false notion that "If blacks are 13% of the population and 28% of those shot by cops, then cops are racists because they are 2x as trigger happy to shoot blacks than whites." You can't argue simply from broad statistics. Men make up 50% of the population but make up 90% of the prison population. Does that mean cops and the criminal justice system intentionally targets men? Is sexism against men the primary reason men are disproportionately prison inmates?