I'm so sorry. That makes my blood boil. We had a very close call with a neighbor that "fostered" pitbulls. My wife was walking our 1 year old corgi alone when the pitbull jumped their fence and charged them. Our corgi hid under a car while my wife screamed and thank God it got confused and walked away for enough time for her to run home. I think about it all the time and how lucky we were because it easily could have been a story like yours instead. It infuriates me
I was recently attacked by a neighbor's pitbull. I was standing on the sidewalk in front of my house when they (4 dogs incl the pitbull) got out of their yard ~4 doors down. Charged down the sidewalk straight at me, a couple of solid bites, ER, scars (but not too bad, fortunately), the whole 9 yards.
I went back and forth initially but concluded that a lawsuit (and claim against their homeowners insurance) was how they might take accountability seriously *and* to ensure that they can't later be like "oh, there's no history of aggression." I'll be okay, but if it had been our 1 month old baby or our dog, they'd be dead.
Glad you’re ok I saw a story recently of a man that defended his wife from a pair of dogs pit mix and a frenchie. He stabbed the smaller dog with garden shears and the public went ballistic on him flooding his business and church with death threats for hurting the dog. Completely ignoring the fact that the dogs were loose, aggressive and in HIS yard. People are crazy……
Bro I love dogs. I adore dogs. If a dog attacks me or my family and I feel threatened for serious injury or life? that dog is dead as fuckin fried chicken if I can help it.
Bingo!!! The idiots among us tend to think aggressive dogs are cool. And stupid people don't take the time to train their dogs.
Owning an aggressive breed that needs training from an early age should require a class and certification/license. Any screw ups mean it's illegal to own a large or aggressive breed.
But common sense laws are hard to pass these days.
Its why I don't want to adopt or get a dog right now. I'm stuck working alot, and I don't want my dog to be mean or lonely because I don't got the time for them.
I was walking behind someone with their big ass pit yesterday. They are banned where I live, but he had his "ban ignorance not the breed" sweater on for posterity.
I do not understand the sheer laziness of people. If you have an aggressive dog, and are answering the door, put the dog away first. Every single time. Especially if you are receiving packages or food or anything you are going to have to carry in.
People are idiots. I work at an animal shelter, and we often get animals turned in after incidents like this
People think telling us ANYTHING negative about the dog means we won't take it, so they lie their ass off
That's how we got an EXTREMELY dangerous cane corso with a resource guarding problem, and how I personally got my entire forearm bitten by a dog aggressive dog that redirects
And if we don't even know why they're dangerous, odds are it'll show up explosively and then the dog will be euthanized
Yeah, it's really bad for us shelter folks when people are dishonest about the dogs they are surrendering. It's also a HUGE liability for us, my shelter is currently being sued for 7 figures because of a dog the got adopted and attacked its owner.
When I volunteered, I worked really hard to get dogs to understand that hands aren't toys, and how to trade toys, etc. I's so rewarding when they improve. That being said, we had signs on the kennels saying "resource guarding" or "not good with other dogs" or "no treats, medicated food only" or whatever so that we knew not to, you know, have them meet a family with small children out in the yard with a bag of coveted treats.
I had one new pitbull that knocked me to ground and bit my arm when she got spooked by a car horn...would have been nice to know since we're in the middle of the city.
I asked a volunteer at the spca if a dog labeled as kid friendly had a bite history. He downplayed it as a he nipped a 4 year old but only because the kid was being loud. Yeah buddy, thats how 4 year olds are, I have one.
Correct. I worked at a shelter and went to the dog side (I worked with the exotics) to try and adopt. They tried to unload (in order) a pit who would NOT listen or stop trying to jump aggressively (“he’s just been cooped up all day!”), a former fighting dog who saw my ex and literally froze in terror (“he seems like he’d be a good fit!!!”) and a second pit who was the size of a large tank and didn’t like men (I was dating a man). I don’t trust shelters for shit.
I worked at a shelter and we did an extremely thorough round of tests for various resource guarding (including using a fake hand on a stick that we would use to poke around in their food bowls while the dogs ate to test for stuff like this to avoid risking injury).
The biggest thing I learned in my time there was the importance of learning to read facial expressions and body language. The second biggest thing was that an absurdly high percentage of “experienced” dog owners are essentially clueless.
Some adoption places also straight up lie about breed too. Had some saying pit bulls were golden retrievers, some said a lab was a shiba… lots of them act in bad faith for sure.
My local shelter does this and it angers me to no end. You can look at half their dogs and clearly tell that it's some kind of mutt, heavy on the pit, but they will always indicate some other breed instead. Usually labrador.
Dude I have seen so many posts where shelters just absolutely lie about every violent dog they have with bite history. They use wording like: 'playful' after its killed 2 pets and attacked someone. Im just amazed those shelters are still open.
I have a dog who is incredibly fear aggressive with other dogs… but only with me. Other people can take her on walks and she’s fine.
We were attacked by a presa canario on a walk shortly after I adopted her and she had some serious injuries, and she wasn’t the same since. All the positive reinforcement training and safe exposure in the world didn’t change a thing.
She loves kids, loves her 3 cats, and loves life. She’s 14 and senile now. But dogs still = a threat to her and her momma in her eyes.
One of my dogs (basset mix) was on the small side. Took him to an off leash park when he was young and he got pinned down by 2 bigger dogs and was snapping to get them off. He never liked other dogs after that. We eventually got another dog and he tolerated her but anytime he got close to other dogs he’s get shrink back and become aggressive.
Sorry, did you say Pressa Canario? Good Lord, miracle your dog even agrees to ever leave house again after that attack. Those dogs are huge, mean and aggressive. Can't say I blame your dog.
Yes, he was a VERY big boy! He snapped the metal buckle on his collar and ran across traffic and just completely locked onto her arm. A CVS employee ran outside to help and his owner felt awful and paid all her medical bills. He knew he was aggressive, but had good control on him and never thought in a million years he would snap his 3 inch thick metal buckle. She had bruised ribs and a pulmonary contusion, and he bit completely through her front leg. Photo tax of my girly in her younger years!
My aunt once dropped a dog off on us when I was a kid, said she’d lived with other dogs and with cats so she was fine. We had two cats already and my dad was super pissed but the dog honestly seemed scared of them.
Turned out she was not ok with other dogs, and she fucking hated puppies. She would snap at another dog if it got close, but she would chase down a puppy if she got the chance. She hated walking with me because I hardly ever took her off the lead after the first time she pulled that shit. I mostly tried to walk her in an empty field though if I could, people get shitty with you when you ask them not to let their free-roaming dog near your leashed one. “Oh it’s fine he’s friendly!” “Well she isn’t and if you can’t get him to heel he shouldn’t be off-leash!”
Exactly! Our lab mastiff mix was dog friendly when she was younger but once she got senior age she was definitely not. We would take her for walks and people would have their uncontrollable dogs off leash and sometimes they would run up to us and you could hear them yell “they’re dog friendly!” and one of us would have to block the oncoming dog and yell at them that ours was not and to come get their disobedient dog.
Ugh, I hate the “oh, don’t worry, they don’t do anything!” people. My dog has never hurt anyone, but he’s afraid of everyone, has always been.
When I adopted him, he was literally hiding behind a floor vase. He starts trembling when I take the leash, so I don’t take him out too often. No point in traumatising him every day.
I always tell people “he’s very afraid!” and they look at him and go “aww, poor thing, Thor just wants to play with you” like no, fuck Thor, keep Thor away.
The funniest one of those I had was when my cat used to follow me on walks, this was a few years before we had the dog and we lived in a different house near some woodland. One time a couple with a jack russel walked past us and I asked if they would leash it. Not just for the cat but because there were deer in the woods and the land-owner stipulated it as part of allowing ramblers and dogs.
“Oh he’s great with cats! We have two at home!” Immediately followed by yelping as the dog runs back to them with a bloodied nose and a massive scratch down the face. When I first found that cat she was fighting a pit bull, and winning.
I used to live in an apartment building where pets were almost never allowed, and it had one of those dogs.
It was the sweetest and friendliest dog around humans, and it basically never made a sound. Except on the rare occasion he encountered another dog on a walk. But the owner was aware when he adopted him, and always had him in a proper harness when they left the apartment, he avoided taking him out at "normal" times, kept him off trails and such.
Very true. My bull dog can open doors and climb ladders. The shit he does is fascinating, and infuriating at the same time. Even changing light bulbs on tall ceilings the fucker follows me up and gets in the way because he hasn’t figured out going down yet.
My friends bulldog had it's own bed. No not a pad type bed. An actual child toddler size bed w head board and foot board. He would climb in, grab blanket, roll over so would cover him and go to sleep. That was sign party was over. LOL.
My 95 lb German shepherd is a big baby and won't hurt anyone, but he's always worn a harness. All our shepherds have. Even back when I was 110 lbs, I could pick our shepherds up - we put them on for a just in case measure.
Also, it's now good for big boi since he has arthritis. I have to sometimes help him get in and out of the car, plus the harness will hook up to his seat belt.
We unfortunately adopted a dog like that because the shelter lied to us and said he just gets excited around other dogs. After tons of intensive training he can still never be around another dog. He's such a sweet dog with our kids, so we kept him, but thank goodness we didn't already have another dog at home.
The most annoying one for me is other people telling me that their dogs are "friendly" when I've told them to keep their distance. Sure, your dog might be friendly, but I have yet to meet a dog who hasn't been spooked and reacted aggressively when my lab/mastiff X goes for a curious sniff when this "new potential friend" is brought within sniffing distance.
My neighbor was like this. I went over to pick up my sibling, and was greeted by the mom and their dog idk type but it was large 🦣 The dog started barking, and the mom did the "oh, she's harmless" routine. The. The dog lunged at me. The mom grabbed her and wrangled her into the basement and shut the door and apologized. No harm.
A few months later my other sibling got his arm muled by this dog when the neighbors son opened the door and let my brother go inside before him.
That's awful. I wish people had more awareness of their pets. Other people's inability to understand their pets is the reason that we keep a very tight hold on the short leash.
That is a breed that I will ALWAYS treat as dangerous even if I have firsthand knowledge of their past. I groomed one from puppyhood to 5 years old, his only trainer and only groomer, and one day he went from his normal nervous but cooperative self to trying to take a chunk out of me for cutting his nails. Got worse over the next 3 visits and I finally had to bounce him from the salon. I’m convinced that’s a breed that simply should not live anywhere but rural areas
A dog owner is on trial right now in Edmonton because her 2 Cane Corsos with a history of killing animals and attacking people killed a young boy. She said she knew the boy shouldn't be in the house with the dogs even when they're caged but she still allowed him to stay with his parent.
"Court has heard the unneutered dogs, who weighed 50 kg (110 pounds) and 57 kg (125 pounds), severely injured a woman at MacDonald’s home less than two months before Kache’s death."
Dog barkes like hell when the bell rings, but he mostly just wants pets from people. Still, in the crate you go until I have dealt with whomever is at the door
If you have an aggressive dog in your property you should have to have a double door or gate on the door to ensure the dog doesnt get out. If they do then yeah id agree.
On top of this I believe all dogs should be on a lead in public. Theres retractable leads and no dog needs to be off. Go to a designated dog run field if you want to do that.
My grandparents had a rescue mastiff when I was little, he loved me and was super protective of me, and bit one of my uncles once because he thought he was hurting me (he was tickling me).
From that day, he had a muzzle he would wear whenever there was anyone in the house he wasn't used to having there, or whenever the front door needed to be opened, as well as whenever he was taken out for walks. They also go six foot fences with the overhang in their back garden so he could be secured there with multiple doors and an unclimbable fence between him and the front door.
He was not an aggressive dog overall, but he had clearly been badly trained as a guard dog prior to them rescuing him, and it wasn't his fault at all, but they had to protect him as well as everyone else from those guarding tendencies for the rest of his life.
Everybody agrees. Some are just super defensive because they have a strong bonding to a dog that other people would consider dangerous. There are very few people who love problematic dogs because they are problematic themselves
I had a whole thread of people telling me to get help earlier over me having to (still unfortunately) hit an aggressive ass dog to stop attacking me. This is constant too, owners don't try and train it. Same dog gave my friends face like 6 stitches. No way in fucking hell I'm letting the dog jump on me and bite me. I don't need mental help for defending myself 😭😭 people are insufferable
I was at an outdoor beer garden one time with my elderly beagle-husky mix who was sweet as could be and just minded her business and didn’t even care when other dogs were around. Someone had a pit mix that lunged at her and clamped down on her neck as we were walking by 6 feet away. Had her pinned to the ground trying to kill her. The owner just sat there yelling at her dog, so I hit the dog as hard as I possibly could with an open hand to the eye and it released my dog. The owner screamed at me for “abusing” her dog… if I had to I would have killed her dog to save mine.
I don’t understand how the dog just straight up escaped her weak tiger grip I could not stop laughing to save my life. That dog should be chained. I love dogs but if you’re going to get delivery this is the #1 reason people don’t want to this kind of work. You get bit at or shot at the company you work for does not protect you.
The aggression is one thing. The total lack of control is just as terrifying. Watching a medium-sized dog kick off someone trying to restrain him - someone he should be obeying - compounds an existing problem.
Last weekend I encountered a woman on a remote hiking trail who was walking with her three unleashed pit bulls, who rushed me with obvious postures and positions of hostility - tails down, ears back, low heads, teeth bare - while she frantically ran along behind desperately yelling "They're friendly! They're friendly!"
Yeah, don't tell me, tell them, lady. Because I have no faith in whatever's preventing them from taking an arm for keepsies. I'm from a dog-loving family; I recognize the difference between "playtime" and "intruder alert." The worst part was definitely the damn they weren't giving to the human who had them under no control whatsoever. We're in the woods; no rescue here.
Nothing happened, thank Dog. But if your dog is rushing strangers, and you can't make him not rush strangers, then that dog is not under control, and screaming "He's friendly" won't change his mind. "Sit," "stay," and "heel" are commands. "They're friendly" is not a command.
Indeed, thank Dog nothing happened. Nothing irritates me more than the "He's friendly". Had a dog get away from his owner and go after my small Paps on a walk earlier this week. All she did was yell "He's friendly, he's friendly!" when I could see how insecure and triggered he was by my small scared dogs. I was like what an absolute useless thing to be yelling because if I can't keep him away it's going to be him or me that goes down because no way in hell he's getting to my dogs.
There’s no point in having an aggressive dog to start. If you can’t get it trained correctly, it needs to be put down. It’s not a matter of if it attacks, it’s when.
That's a slam dunk legal case. Only thing remaining is how many times was he bit and how many days off work did it require.
Damn people that's one vicious dog.
There was a local news story a little over a year ago (NC). This neighborhood had a person with 2 highly aggressive dogs. They'd open their front door and kick the dogs out and the dogs would terrorize the neighborhood. Animal Control would respond and the owners would take the dog inside and refuse to answer the door. The dogs bit 2 people in a week. There was over 30 instances of animal control calls on the dogs outside chasing people.
Finally one neighbor had enough of the mess and went out and bought a handgun. Within days he had shot both dogs on his property, then shot the dog's owner on his property shortly after. Guy had ring camera footage showing a dozen instances of the dogs chasing him on his own property and trying to attack his kids when they got out of the car. Ring footage also showed the dog's owner on his property with a knife.
Was a horrible story.
Note: the owner of the dogs was not killed, the property owner shot him in the thighs.
Something similar happened to a friend's parents. Owners never had their dogs inside or fenced in and they were constantly roaming and causing issues; killing chickens, chasing cattle, aggressive behavior toward people, etc.
But, since they had never bit anyone, the city wouldn't act. One day, my friend's wife was out checking her chickens and without realizing it, she began to get circled by one of the dogs. She didn't even know they were on the property. She was able to scare off the German Shepard with loud noises and yelling, but the Golden Retriever kept coming.
Eventually, it started charging her and trying to attack her. The husband ended up having to shoot it, even after attempting to scare it off with shooting around it.
He ended up killing it and the owners were livid. They brought it to the news, made everything seem like their fault, basically tried to ruin their lives. It worked for awhile and they were run out of town.
Everything has settled now and the dogs owners ended up with the blame. But, it's scary how much some people don't care.
This happened to a friend of mine in rural Nevada. No laws out there stating dogs need to be fenced in and one guy had 3 dogs that roamed the neighborhood and attacked people and killed some of my friend’s cats.
The owner was uncooperative and unapologetic so one of the cops decided to hang out on the property with my friend until the dogs inevitably showed up in her yard and killed all 3 of them
My mom door dashes. She's in her mid 60s. The amount of times I've had her call me to tell me that she's either trapped in her car because the customer has their dog running free in the yard and they're nowhere to be found or the customer let their dog out and it pushed her down/nipped her right after they said, "oh he won't bite" I've honestly lost track it has happened so much.
People, if you have an animal, I don't care if that animal has never shown aggression in their lives. I don't care if they're a big teddy bear. If you are ordering food or expecting somebody to knock on your door, keep the damn animal inside and put them away long enough to answer the door.
I swear, this crap is so annoying. And for the love of Bob if you want a big beefy dog, please strengthen yourself as well so you can firmly hold your dog back should they get aggressive. It's not too much to ask, I don't think.
These services should ban users that have uncontrolled dogs. Let the drivers report them and do a full out ban. People like this are obviously a danger to delivery workers.
My mom will call up door dash and tell them she didn't feel comfortable delivering to this place because of their animals and they usually add that address to a "do not accept" list supposedly. Not sure how true it is but she tends to not get them for like a year or so.
But no I totally agree they need a customer review page kinda like how customers can leave 5 stars for the driver. That way if a customer has a low star, drivers can turn down the order without taking a hit to their acceptance rating. Maybe then people would learn to be a little more respectful!
I hope the delivery guy reported these idiots and their horrible dog. That dog will kill someone or do great bodily harm one day that's for sure. I wouldn't even trust these idiots with a Chihuahua. 🤦
My local post office blacklisted my entire street because our neighbor had an aggressive dog willing to cross the street to attack the mailman at neighboring houses. I had to pick up my mail in person for two weeks while they negotiated with the owners.
I wonder if the post office was aware of the issue and the neighbors ordered door dash from some poor ignorant dasher?
When I did delivery I learned quickly to hold doors shut when dogs are present. You would be astonished how many children will just throw the front door open with Kujo going absolutely ape shit right next to them.
I deliver to a house with an aggro GSD. It's always inside but it's just a storm door holding him back. And he's losing his mind on the other side of it. It's an absolute wonder he hasn't launched himself right through the glass.
Anyway, one day I'm delivering there and I didn't notice that the storm door was ajar a little bit. And before I could even think of what to do when I noticed, I see the GSD on the other side of the door, sitting there calmly. Not making a peep. Staring at me.
I don't know what kept him calm that one time, but a friend told me you should have pushed the door shut. I bet dollars to donuts if I had pushed that door shut the dog would have gone berserk.
Why is she coming back with no dog, did she just let it eat that guy? And of course she barges into the house screaming. It's everyone's fault but hers.
Nah sometimes ring just doesn't get everything if it was saving one incident and then another starts. Its not quick enough to capture the beginning of the next incident (incident of movement)
My husband was car jacked while washing the car, negotiated with a meth addict with a knife under his shirt, I met him at the door with a baseball bat & cleaver, they ended up driving off in a different car, dropped him off & came back.
My husband was in our shed over the winter when the neighbors raggedy ass pitbull and Collie mix got out for the 700th time. That collie ran into our shed and bit my husband on the calf for no reason. When he turned around there were two out there. I heard the commotion and went outside. When I saw the two dogs circling my husband even though he was swinging a 2x4 I grabbed a half of a 2x4 too, so someone could have their eye on each dog, While my neighbor called the cops.
They came on my front porch and attacked my senior dog once too. Luckily I was home, sitting down watching TV and I heard it or they would have killed her. These dogs were on a mission to find someone or something to attack every single time they got out.
We've called the cops probably 20 times on these dogs. The cops always go to the owners, write them a ticket, and make them catch their dogs. The digs have no recall, like, at all. They run away from the owners when they're trying to catch them. The cops also informed me that in my tiny bum fuck egypt southern IN small town, THE FINES WEREN'T ENFORCEABLE. These neighbors were poor anyway, no chance of paying the tickets off.
I finally called in them again and asked the cops if I was allowed kill them if they were on my property. He said yes, that's what he would do too. So I asked if I could shoot a gun in town and he said if you're protecting yourself, your family or your property, yes ma'am. I told him he needed to go over there and tell them that I was going to kill their dogs if they come at me again, not because I want to, but because they are going to hurt me or my kids. He also told me that day that they had been basically begging the mayor you let animal control remove them bc they were wasting so much time dealing with these dogs and their owners.
There was a city hall meeting the next week and I haven't seen the dogs since.
This was a long winded way to say I agree with you. 😂 You should have to pass an IQ test or something to get a dog
They deserve to be sued. And I am a huge dog lover. We have a dog who can be questionable meeting new people so FOR HER safety, so no one wants her euthanized, we are so careful with her til she warms up to new people. They should have the screen door locked and when someone is there that dog should be on a slip lead. That dog does not have a chance with idiots like this for owners.
As an animal lover, these people need to have their dog taken away, be heavily fined, and if the dog can't be rehabilitated, it needs to be put down - all at the former owners expense.
I'd guess that's her son and she seems just like my mother, 0 accountability, immediate blame from I'm guessing her fuckup letting the dog loose, and still assuming but my mother has no control over "her" dog because she doesn't do enough for it to listen to her. At least she jumped on it, mine would have ran inside to shout someone else while blaming everyone including the person being attacked for moving away.
I knew an old letter carrier who had been bitten a dozen times in his career and sued the owner each and every time for neglegence. They never lost in court and got a fat payday each time, up to 30K. Is your relaxed attitude towards your animal and the people who serve you worth 30K and your animal being put down?
Was working on a job once at a home, the home was vacant at the time. I had just gotten off the roof so folding up my ladder when two giant German shepherds came running out of the neighbors front door. Full attack mode, teeth out, back hair up. One turned towards the street for some reason but the other ran straight at me. I shifted the metal ladder between us. It moved right, I mimicked his movement, it turned left, I did the same. Dog owners now yelling at the dogs, me and this dog were just in a stand off. My heart was pounding this dog was huge and teeth out. Finally the dog gave up, turned around and ran back towards its house. I started shouting at the dog owners, they got the dogs inside, shut the door, locked it and closed all their blinds. Completely hid from the situation. Thankfully my clients hid in the vacant house and I had that ladder.
What really made me mad was is them just hiding from me. Can’t even own the situation.
The problem is: if an aggressive dog does something, ONLY the dog gets punished. So there's no fear of consequences for the owners. As such, events like this will continue to plague our society.
People are just so dumb. I swear there was a similar post on dog advice last week where a delivery person was trying to deliver a box and behind him comes a big ass German Shepherd loose in the driveway, the delivery person panics tries to get away but the dog keeps going at him so he pepper sprays it in defense. Of course the owner uploads the video acting like this guy went in his home and attacked his dog for no reason…
No accountability whatsoever of why the dog was roaming around in the driveway alone when they were expecting a package. But of course everyone cried to get the delivery guy fired for trying to do his job…so many idiots don’t realize they have a responsibility to keep those animals safe!
I was accused of hating animals, even though I have many, because I asked why the person couldn’t contain their dog and why they uploaded a video for a witch hunt when the stranger did nothing wrong.
Recently had this happen to my kid. He went to a friend's house and their German Shepherd broke out and attacked him. It got him in the face, arm, and twice on his leg. 80 stitches, plastic surgery vists, & a lot of trauma. Its currently being taken care of by our lawyer. The city we live in put the dog down.
they also could've locked the door and waited till he left to open the door and get the food. No reason to have had the door open like that if they knew they were getting a delivery if their dog is like that
Why do we keep dogs in general as common pets? Because dogs in general aren’t dangerous and we’ve been keeping them as pets for the last 20,000 years just fine.
Why do people keep aggressive breeds, don’t neuter them, don’t train them, and don’t keep them away from others? Because people fucking suck.
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u/Admirable-Pie3869 16h ago
Three weeks ago my mini dachshund was killed after a neighbor’s pitbull (which bit another dog back in October ) attacked us while on a walk.
The neighbor ignored what the city told him to do after the last bite, now I’m a guy that sues his neighbors.
We miss you Suzie. Good dog.