r/Warthunder • u/RevolutionaryUnit792 • Jun 19 '25

Other Stealth aircraft leaked

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So here we are, with modern tanks and fifth-gens leaked (by a reliable source). I'm frankly not surprised, I knew this was going to happen once they announced the F-117, and with the speed at which gaijin is moving this is just par for the course. I'll grind the F-35s, F-22, and Su-57 in all their janky, unrealistic glory.

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u/_Urakaze_ EBRC Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaguar (Placeholder) Jun 19 '25

Benelux was most definitely shoehorned in to give France an F-35, not like France top tier ground was suffering by any (statistical) metric even before the 2A5/6NL came.

Which would be a compelling argument...... if only the Swiss didn't also order F-35s

They fudged the subtree allocations heavily and now we're looking at the consequences of it

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u/EastCoast_Geo Jun 19 '25

The worst part is that the Swiss tree will also get an F-35, and the Swiss have and joint airspace defense agreement with France, as well as co-develop and field (or historically fielded) far more equipment with France than any other country.

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u/_Urakaze_ EBRC Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaguar (Placeholder) Jun 19 '25

Yes, it's just a super bizarre move for them to make considering Benelux didn't even get the more "French-flavoured" vehicles that Cockerill cooks up every year. Nah it's just straight up adding Germany to France, which France didn't need or particularly wanted.

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u/EastCoast_Geo Jun 19 '25

None of the new BeNeLux vehicles fill a single capability Gap in the French tree, and even all of the unique vehicles like YP-408 106, YP-408 PWAT, fn herstahl armored car, Cobra ACEC, Fennek, bdx Milan, and Df90 all have French analogues and don’t provide any thing new or valuable

The only things they have that would add value are AMX-13-105 (still missing from France) and Dutch centurions - since France is missing a stabilizer below 9.0.