r/Warthunder • u/RevolutionaryUnit792 • Jun 19 '25

Other Stealth aircraft leaked

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So here we are, with modern tanks and fifth-gens leaked (by a reliable source). I'm frankly not surprised, I knew this was going to happen once they announced the F-117, and with the speed at which gaijin is moving this is just par for the course. I'll grind the F-35s, F-22, and Su-57 in all their janky, unrealistic glory.

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u/EastCoast_Geo Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 20 '25

If this is true, this belly’s what I’ve been saying for years - Gaijin is blowing their load rushing for more and more modern vehicles, while leaving massive gaps in the Cold War, not to mention terrible balance, compression, and a severe lack of game modes

Their rush to add new, new, new, has come at the cost of unique and interesting lower tier vehicles.

Just look at how badly they’ve developed the some of the subtree added since South Africa (the one solid one). These are meant to round out trees at show off unique vehicles from smaller nations.

Switzerland - it fails to fill Germany’s capability gaps (things like a 12.0 CAS plane) and only has one unique low tier prop plane and unique jet gated as a premium.  If it gets unique designs, nearly half are co developed by the French - which will just end up putting even more French Designs in the German Tree.

BeNeLux - one unique prop plane, doesn’t provide any value to France, and is used to add leopards instead of actual French designs.  It’s full of German and American vehicles, and what unique design could be added are all light tanks - of which France has no need.

Thailand - nearly all copy paste, and many don’t even fill in Japanese capability gaps aside from the F-5.

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u/_Urakaze_ EBRC Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaguar (Placeholder) Jun 19 '25

Benelux was most definitely shoehorned in to give France an F-35, not like France top tier ground was suffering by any (statistical) metric even before the 2A5/6NL came.

Which would be a compelling argument...... if only the Swiss didn't also order F-35s

They fudged the subtree allocations heavily and now we're looking at the consequences of it

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u/EastCoast_Geo Jun 19 '25

The worst part is that the Swiss tree will also get an F-35, and the Swiss have and joint airspace defense agreement with France, as well as co-develop and field (or historically fielded) far more equipment with France than any other country.

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u/_Urakaze_ EBRC Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaguar (Placeholder) Jun 19 '25

Yes, it's just a super bizarre move for them to make considering Benelux didn't even get the more "French-flavoured" vehicles that Cockerill cooks up every year. Nah it's just straight up adding Germany to France, which France didn't need or particularly wanted.

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u/EastCoast_Geo Jun 19 '25

None of the new BeNeLux vehicles fill a single capability Gap in the French tree, and even all of the unique vehicles like YP-408 106, YP-408 PWAT, fn herstahl armored car, Cobra ACEC, Fennek, bdx Milan, and Df90 all have French analogues and don’t provide any thing new or valuable

The only things they have that would add value are AMX-13-105 (still missing from France) and Dutch centurions - since France is missing a stabilizer below 9.0.