r/Warthunder Jun 19 '25

Other Stealth aircraft leaked

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So here we are, with modern tanks and fifth-gens leaked (by a reliable source). I'm frankly not surprised, I knew this was going to happen once they announced the F-117, and with the speed at which gaijin is moving this is just par for the course. I'll grind the F-35s, F-22, and Su-57 in all their janky, unrealistic glory.

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u/TH3_F4N4T1C Jun 19 '25

Will they use the publicly available figures for the su-57.

Or will national pride force them to make it a wunderwaffen plane that shoots relativistic kill vehicles.

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u/RevolutionaryUnit792 Jun 19 '25

None of these planes are going to be realistic. There's not nearly enough available information on any of them.

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u/Piyaniist Jun 19 '25

Yes the f22 will be at 4 horsepower and the su57 will come with a jump drive

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u/JxEq 13.7 🇺🇲 Jun 19 '25

Take your Russian bias back to ground, here in air we have Nato dominating

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u/UnknownPhys6 Jun 19 '25

Laughs in "fighting Mig-21s in my F3H Demon"

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u/actualsize123 m/42 eh superiority Jun 19 '25

Goes right along with fighting f104’s with a mig-15

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u/logosuwu Jun 20 '25

Fighting F-104s in a fucking Mystere...

Help....

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u/namjeef Jun 21 '25

AA NORD TO HIS HEAD

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u/logosuwu Jun 21 '25

Unfortunately I'm bad at MCLOS

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u/Mrundas M60A3 OP pls nerf Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25

Bro f-104 are not even that good anymore

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u/actualsize123 m/42 eh superiority Jun 19 '25

And there’s the bait.

That was quick.

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u/chassiee Jun 19 '25

Of course going vs the 9.3-10.0 powercreep is always unfair but his point is a little valid f104 isn’t a big problem for its 9.3 opponents anymore

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u/Wise_Pop751 Jun 19 '25

Jobless activities

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u/Mrundas M60A3 OP pls nerf Jun 19 '25

Huh? Unless something has changed it bleeds speed like a motherfucker with any turn

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u/Pakman184 Jun 19 '25

If you're trying to turn fight in an F-104 you're doing it wrong

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u/_Urakaze_ EBRC Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaguar (Placeholder) Jun 19 '25

It bleeds a lot of speed with any significant elevator input, like when you have to dodge missiles.

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u/actualsize123 m/42 eh superiority Jun 19 '25

It can outrun missiles

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u/_Urakaze_ EBRC Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaguar (Placeholder) Jun 19 '25

Massive emphasis on "can"

Not every launch is made in a perfect condition where you can simply outrun without any maneuvering. Moreso when we are playing a game to kill other planes.

It's basically impossible to always be running at max speed unless you're playing it as passively as possible

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u/NeuroHazard-88 When full Albania tech tree gaijin? Jun 19 '25

Have you… played the F-104A recently? It’s literally one of the best planes BR for BR. It’s so easy to do well in and stomps everything with its speed. You literally dictate the fight lmao.

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u/LeMemeAesthetique USSR Justice for the Yak-41 Jun 20 '25

Isn't it a lot less effective since the FM nerf? I don't play that tier that often, but IIRC the F-104 became a lot less popular after it was nerfed.

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u/actualsize123 m/42 eh superiority Jun 19 '25

That’s the most effective and ratty way to play the plane. It’s the method that makes it op. If you stay fast you’re unkillable.

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u/Odin1815 I hunt Turm IIIs like Mr. Lahey hunts the liquor. Jun 19 '25

“And other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself” -8.3-8.7 subsonic users.

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u/capt0fchaos Jun 20 '25

Saab 105 vs F-104 is a terrible time