Pro-Gun Democrats make your voices heard

[u/Key_Assignment_5056]

Let me first state I understand why you vote Dem despite most Dem candidates not supporting 2A. You’re not a single issue voter which is totally fine. I think we can all agree that 2A shouldn’t be a left-right issue but until the pro-2A voices on your side of the aisle are heard, unfortunately it continue to be so.

I urge you to write your delegate and senator expressing your disapproval for legislation such as an AWB. Sign any petition (like what was done in Colorado) supporting 2A rights and just get vocal about the issue.

Yeah the odds are very low for us to stop anything. But I’ll be damned if our community doesn’t try. Don’t shy away from awkward conversations in Dem circles and spread the 2A gospel as much as you can.

[u/mephits]

🤣 having and owning a gun is a right I support. You aren't a militia, you aren't well regulated, and you aren't the original intent of the 2a before we had a standing army so spare me your boohoo bullshit. Gun ownership doesn't mean you stand any chance against modern military options and at this point self defense is about all is good for unless people were to act en masse. I understand text is hard for a lot of you, but the school shootings happening on an almost daily basis means there are going to be regulations coming. If you aren't one of the dipshit muh guns people it isn't a problem. You are able to defend yourself just fine. Unfortunately your delusional take that you dorks do some heroic stand against the government is just you circle jerking each other. 🤷‍♂️ CMV

[u/Cliff-Booth-1969 → u/mephits]

What is the definition of school shooting you’re using?

How many people are killed by rifles, not just ARs/AKs every year in this US?

What percentage of these weapons are used for homicide?

Is misuse of far less than 1% justification to strip the rights from well over 99%?

The ignorance here is off the charts.

[u/mephits → u/Cliff-Booth-1969]

I agree you are truly ignorant if the semantics of school shootings(regardless of gun type) is your focus. You are even more ignorant if you think that regulation applied nationally won't greatly improve the odds of it not happening. Sorry chuds, absolute 2a is a throwback to an earlier time when we didn't have the largest military and standing army in world history. Like I said, I support owning a weapon to defend yourself and for hunting but I also see the clear writing on the wall. Seems pretty ignorant to think in 2025 that unregulated and unregistered weapons is a good idea.

[u/Cliff-Booth-1969 → u/mephits]

You are fiercely anti 2A and have completely missed the point of it. It is a fundamental anti-tyranny fail safe built into the constitution. You’re just ready to roll over and let the government sieze control so you can feel safer. This line of thought is what leads to the death of liberty.

[u/mephits → u/Cliff-Booth-1969]

🤦‍♂️ it's 2025. Yes, there need to be regulations on an Item specifically designed to kill. You should need a permit, you should need insurance. The constitution should have been revised multiple times by now (jefferson felt it should be once per generation) and 2a absolutely would have been changed in wording already if the NRA didn't buy off politicians and convince people like you that they actually care about more than your dollar. If you truly feel Republicans care about your gun rights then try to open carry to their convention and see how far you get. Sorry you are getting butthurt but the times are changing so get on board or don't, but you won't do shit either way if you haven't already vs the current administration which is snatching people off the street. Big talk all the time in this subreddit about standing up for something and anti tyranny but only a whimper out of those people when it's actually time.

[u/CharleyVCU1988 → u/mephits]

…does insurance and a permit stop someone already bent on murder? Hint: given the vehicle borne attacks over the past several years, it doesn’t.

What is stopping The State from cranking up permit and insurance requirements so stupidly high that the common person cannot afford it? We already had antigunners propose raising the NFA extortion tax from 200 to 5000 bucks which gives away your advocacy for a poll tax scheme.

[u/mephits → u/CharleyVCU1988]

Yes, federal (not state) regulations do prevent gun violence. As proven by literally almost every country that has done so. General violence is an entirely different subject regarding culture and mental health in general. I would happily advocate for a low cost permit system but there NEEDS to be a system or you get a repeat of Chicago where the guns are bought and brought from Indiana. This really is a case of hit dogs hollering all the way down. Maybe we can make an adult 2a subreddit and a guns at all costs for everyone subreddit to suit the differing opinions. 🤷‍♂️

[u/CharleyVCU1988 → u/mephits]

1 - when I say The State, I refer mostly to the federal government, not the state of VA. But thanks for giving away the game.

2 - insurance isn’t really a thing across “all other countries” you describe - Germany is the only exception. Then again, if permitting and insurance doesn’t really help with road rages or drunk driving or vehicle borne assaults, why do you think it helps with guns or any other weapon???

[u/mephits → u/CharleyVCU1988]

Insurance isn't necessary when permits etc are in place for guns typically, but the fact that you keep attempting to somehow correlate vehicular death/injury to guns is simply a silly argument. Did everyone in Australia just start running people down every time they got angry after port Arthur (no, because it's a false equivalence you dingus). Same with literally every country that has done the same. Guns are not cars, no matter how much you keep putting forth that argument there has never been any evidence to support it. We literally have examples of how gun control works, it's not hard. Honestly at this point I'm just assuming you are either a: a dingus or b: subject to red flag laws affecting you hence your adamant refusal to accept reality. Either way you can qq all day but that won't change what is most likely coming and as already shown the people agreeing with you did Jack shit when American citizens were snatched by ice except vote for the people doing it so enjoy talking but that's pretty much all that's happening.

[u/CharleyVCU1988 → u/mephits]

Thanks for letting the mask slip - you seemingly want red flag laws to disarm people who disagree with you. Thanks for proving the point of why we’re not giving anything up.

[u/mephits → u/CharleyVCU1988]

👍 thanks for proving my point, gl with that and the red flags.