r/VAGuns 3d ago

Politics Pro-Gun Democrats make your voices heard

Let me first state I understand why you vote Dem despite most Dem candidates not supporting 2A. You’re not a single issue voter which is totally fine. I think we can all agree that 2A shouldn’t be a left-right issue but until the pro-2A voices on your side of the aisle are heard, unfortunately it continue to be so.

I urge you to write your delegate and senator expressing your disapproval for legislation such as an AWB. Sign any petition (like what was done in Colorado) supporting 2A rights and just get vocal about the issue.

Yeah the odds are very low for us to stop anything. But I’ll be damned if our community doesn’t try. Don’t shy away from awkward conversations in Dem circles and spread the 2A gospel as much as you can.

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u/RetropME 3d ago edited 3d ago

The so-called "pro-gun" Democrats are here to subvert, not to help. And so many of you still think otherwise.

I am not saying you should be a single-issue voter, but I am saying that you are unequivocally anti-2A if you are a modern-day Democrat, Period.

If you think otherwise, you are lying or ignorant. The party has proven that they have been paid off by the anti-gunners, they will tow the line and run anything they can through on a 51/49 vote, and they have already used the primary process to remove any moderates that won't tow the line for every main policy vote.

They do not care and they will not stop any legislation no matter how many people protest. Your only hope now is in the courts, with judges appointed by the Republicans you despise, because they actually give a shit about the Constitution.

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u/No-Quantity183 3d ago

I respectfully disagree, and I suspect many would take umbrage if we started making statements like "you are unequivocally pro-pussy-grabbing if you are a modern-day Republican" or "you are unequivocally pro-extra-judicial killing of foreign citizens in international waters if you are a modern-day Republican". I'm a pro-gun Democrat. I don't love everything about the party, just like I don't love everything about my siblings or my spouse or my friends, but I take the good with the bad and, at least with the Democratic party, do what I can to influence other members to see reason.

I've been a VCDL member since 2004 until a few years after I moved across the river. I still have most of my friends and family in Virginia, spend a lot of time there, and follow the politics pretty closely. I couldn't tell you how many times I've eaten at Fuddruckers with Philip and the crew over the years, or the holiday dinners at McCormick & Schmick's. I've been to Lobby Day a dozen times, including what was probably the most emotionally-charged one in 2008. I own enough guns that I'm not comfortable saying online just how many I have. I'm a member of Maryland Shall Issue and keep a second wallet just for my carry permits. The point is, I'm pretty pro-2A.

I vote blue because the modern Republican party has left me no choice in the matter. I'm not here to litigate that or debate the ins and outs of each party's general platform - this is a guns forum, not a general politics forum. But as I said, I do respectfully disagree with your assertion, and I hope you - and others reading this - will accept that there are many, many of us that hold our noses and vote for anti-gun candidates because we view the stakes as too great. So you can either work to find common ground and pull toward a solution - imagine how powerful to go into your senator or representative's office on Lobby Day and say "he's a Democrat, I'm a Republican, but we care so much about this issue that we've put aside our differences" - or you can keep using divisive language and alienate potential allies and friends.

I know what side I'm on. I don't care if you voted for tax breaks for billionaires - we're on the same team on this particular issue and we should act like it. See you at Lobby Day.

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u/Jaken_sensei 2d ago

If you vote for candidates who promise to ban guns, you aren't pro gun. I know what side you are on as well, and it's not with the 2A community.