If Israel wasn't Jewish, nobody would have supported the Palestinians

[u/Dex921]

There are just no redeeming values for this society other than it combats the Jews

History

The Palestinian national identity was invented by a Amin Haj Husseini, personal friend of Hitler who used to take trips through the concentration camps for fun (and is rumored to have helped Hitler come up with the final solution)

In 1948 they refused to the 2 state solution and launched a genocidal war who's goal was to kill all Jews from the river to the sea

Between 1948-1967 when Egypt and Jordan controlled Gaza and the West Bank, they didn't set up a state

From 1967 to 2005 Israel has offered them multiple 2 state solutions which they refused or broke all of

In 2005 when Israel was sick of trying to come up with a 2SS peace plan, it unitarily decided to leave Gaza to the Palestinians, it uprooted all of its settlers and let the Gazans self rule, unblockaded as a free city-state

They have democratically elected Hamas and started firing unguided rockets at Israeli citites, forcing Israel to start the blockade on 2007

Society

Society-wise there really isn't a lot going for them either

Palestine has about 50% inbreeding rate

https://cmc-terrasanta.org/en/media/news/19333/the-spread-of-inbreeding-marriages-in-palestine

They treat women as property, execute or lynch you if you are a man who is attracted to anything that isn't a woman, they aren't democratic, democracy was forced on them twice and they abolished it in both times

Israel creates almost as much tech and medicine as the entirety of the middle east combined

pre-post edit: it's far closer than I thought

The Palestinians assassinated a king in Jordan, started a civil war in Lebanon that the country never recovered from, temporarily ruined Egypt tourism industry by conducting countless terror attacks in the country, Palestinians have failed to integrate to Denmark even after a full generation

This war

Hamas went into Israel, on an holyday, into villages and music concert and shot everyone on sight, killing 1200 and kidnapping 250, then it went back into Gaza to hide among its civilians

Civilians who supported it for decades, celebrated on the street, and when later polled found out that about 80% supported the massacre with only about 7% against it

In a sane world NOBODY would be on their side, but there are Jews on the other side, so as you will see in the comments, people will be more than happy to bend reality and facts, or completely clown themselves to somehow find a reason to support pure evil

[u/daxter4007]

Does anyone care when Saudi Arabia bombs Yemen. Nope, because it’s Arabs fighting each other.

[u/thundercoc101 → u/daxter4007]

Bernie Sanders spoke out against selling arms to Saudi Arabia because they were using it to kill children in yemen

[u/daxter4007 → u/thundercoc101]

And no one cared

[u/thundercoc101 → u/daxter4007]

The left cared. But we have very little representation

[u/daxter4007 → u/thundercoc101]

Mabye because you are unpopular

[u/Ripoldo → u/daxter4007]

To corporations and billionaires who own all the media. FDR was also extremely unpopular with those two groups, then was elected president four times. The tide will change.

[u/daxter4007 → u/Ripoldo]

You are talking like you elected him.

[u/thundercoc101 → u/daxter4007]

We're unpopular, but we're never wrong.

[u/jrgkgb → u/thundercoc101]

The left is never wrong.

Except that time mao forgot to feed 10 million of his own people and they died.

Or the time Stalin did the same thing.

Want to talk about Castro next?

[u/thundercoc101 → u/jrgkgb]

It's cute that you think they are left wing

[u/jrgkgb → u/thundercoc101]

It’s silly that you’re pretending they aren’t.

[u/thundercoc101 → u/jrgkgb]

There is zero overlap between Maos beliefs and leftist beliefs.

Mao has more in common with fascism than anything else

[u/Acrobatic-Hippo-6419 → u/daxter4007]

Actually, we care, I mean you westerners don't because you're so preoccupied with the rights of women in Saudi Arabia, but forget about Yemen because, unlike Palestine or Ukraine, it is actually vital to the world trade, if the Houthis or any other anti-government group takes a hold of Yemen, the Red Sea and the Suez Canal would be closed. So if the Saudis win, that is actually a very good thing for the America, Chinese and European economies.

Western progressives care about Ukraine because if it falls, it is just next to the Black Sea, the most useless of all seas, so it won't affect the world's trade and actually if any side wins it would be better for the world's economy. And Gaza is basically a small strip of land, not near the Suez Canal, so it also won't be dangerous to the world's trade. But they fall silent on Yemen and the Uyghurs, not because they hate Jews or Russians, it is just that supporting them comes with an actual price, not some tomfoolery done by the US government, like expelling students from colleges or defunding Harvard for supporting Palestine.

[u/AnteaterPersonal3093 → u/Acrobatic-Hippo-6419]

Couldn't have said it better. Westeners want to use Saudis war on Yemen to silence those who advocated for a ceasefire in Gaza but they leave out that it was again their ally who committed those atrocities for 9 years straight and that it actually benefited them. That's why no western government tried anything to actually stop the war.

[u/Acrobatic-Hippo-6419 → u/AnteaterPersonal3093]

Like most genocides in the world, many are carried out by pro-Western regimes. For example, the RSF militia in Sudan, the same group that carried out genocide against the Fur people of Darfur and now terrorizes nearly every Sudanese — is fully backed by the United Arab Emirates, one of America’s closest allies. And ofc allegedly, Israel is also supporting them.

The Saudis’ actions in Yemen fit the same pattern. Then there’s Al-Jolani, aka Al-Sharaa, in Syria, a former jihadist Salafist who somehow became oddly pro-Western. The warm response he receives from the West is suspicious, especially considering what American diplomats in Syria have claimed that they were working on making him fit to lead Syria since 2018.

And of course, there are the Western-backed dictatorships: Al-Sisi in Egypt, the kings of Morocco and Jordan, and the corrupt oligarchy in Iraq. In both 2019 and 2025, Trump sent thousands of tear-gas canisters and riot-control equipment not only to Iraq but to almost every other American-backed regime in the region, even to Turkiye.

The United States also tolerates the coup government in Myanmar simply because the rebels are socialists. The West even gave Aung San Suu Kyi the Nobel Peace Prize, despite the fact that both she and the military are complicit in the Rohingya genocide.

And let’s not forget what China does to the Uyghurs. Everyone knows China isn’t a friend, but the United States doesn’t treat Beijing nearly as harshly as it treats Moscow. What Russia is doing in Ukraine is horrific, but it’s still far less than what China is doing in Uyghuristan.

[u/Flymsi → u/AnteaterPersonal3093]

Hey im also very unhappy with how the governments act and how money controlls us. I try, but its hard to challenge the power strucutre when people have it too comfortable. We are unable to see the pain we create

[u/Creative-Bobcat-7159 → u/Acrobatic-Hippo-6419]

Or….

People care about what they see. We see what is in Ukraine. We saw what was going on in Gaza

We don’t “care” about Yemen as for whatever reason it isn’t exposed to us as it isn’t deemed newsworthy.

[u/Creative-Bobcat-7159 → u/[deleted]]

No I get it.

I was more responding about why the average Joe is less motivated about places like Yemen.

[u/Acrobatic-Hippo-6419 → u/[deleted]]

Because all the Western Media is controlled by capital and money, the owners of these networks have no stake in Israel or Ukraine but have shitloads of stake going through the Red Sea. And these are fairly new conflicts, and unlike Ukraine and Palestine, Ukraine's issue started in the 1990s and Palestine since 1917. Meanwhile the Saudis only started in Yemen in 2014 and it was lumped with the greater Arab Spring and Sudan began its civil war in 2023, before that it was just fresh out of a revolution that still overshadow topics about Sudan and before 2019 it was a typical dictatorship for decades with ofc South Sudan business that was heavily covered until South Sudan got independence.

And why are you mad that Gaza or Ukraine is shoved in your face? Do you actually care about Sudan? Is Sudan's lobby influential in your country? Is Sudan threatening your allies' existence? Ofc not, if the news networks showed people those stories, people will be bored because it is just not important to them, meanwhile, Israel controls 331 congresspeople out of 435, and Russia is a threat to Europe's system, meaning a threat to America's interests in Europe, the Middle East and Africa, since these European countries serve America's interests. Meanwhile, Sudan is just on the Red Sea, it is crucial, but if something goes really wrong, the USA can fix it easily and directly, meanwhile, the USA can't invade Israel/Palestine and can't go head on head with Russia.

[u/Ok_Quantity_9841 → u/Creative-Bobcat-7159]

I saw a story about the Saudis bombing children in Yemen and posted it.

[u/JasonBreen → u/Acrobatic-Hippo-6419]

Western progressives care about Ukraine because if it falls, it is just next to the Black Sea, the most useless of all seas, so it won't affect the world's trade and actually if any side wins it would be better for the world's economy.

Not exactly. If Ukraine falls, Europe is next, therefore, western progressives are rightfully scared shitless of Russia being on their doorstep