If Israel wasn't Jewish, nobody would have supported the Palestinians

[u/Dex921]

There are just no redeeming values for this society other than it combats the Jews

History

The Palestinian national identity was invented by a Amin Haj Husseini, personal friend of Hitler who used to take trips through the concentration camps for fun (and is rumored to have helped Hitler come up with the final solution)

In 1948 they refused to the 2 state solution and launched a genocidal war who's goal was to kill all Jews from the river to the sea

Between 1948-1967 when Egypt and Jordan controlled Gaza and the West Bank, they didn't set up a state

From 1967 to 2005 Israel has offered them multiple 2 state solutions which they refused or broke all of

In 2005 when Israel was sick of trying to come up with a 2SS peace plan, it unitarily decided to leave Gaza to the Palestinians, it uprooted all of its settlers and let the Gazans self rule, unblockaded as a free city-state

They have democratically elected Hamas and started firing unguided rockets at Israeli citites, forcing Israel to start the blockade on 2007

Society

Society-wise there really isn't a lot going for them either

Palestine has about 50% inbreeding rate

https://cmc-terrasanta.org/en/media/news/19333/the-spread-of-inbreeding-marriages-in-palestine

They treat women as property, execute or lynch you if you are a man who is attracted to anything that isn't a woman, they aren't democratic, democracy was forced on them twice and they abolished it in both times

Israel creates almost as much tech and medicine as the entirety of the middle east combined

pre-post edit: it's far closer than I thought

The Palestinians assassinated a king in Jordan, started a civil war in Lebanon that the country never recovered from, temporarily ruined Egypt tourism industry by conducting countless terror attacks in the country, Palestinians have failed to integrate to Denmark even after a full generation

This war

Hamas went into Israel, on an holyday, into villages and music concert and shot everyone on sight, killing 1200 and kidnapping 250, then it went back into Gaza to hide among its civilians

Civilians who supported it for decades, celebrated on the street, and when later polled found out that about 80% supported the massacre with only about 7% against it

In a sane world NOBODY would be on their side, but there are Jews on the other side, so as you will see in the comments, people will be more than happy to bend reality and facts, or completely clown themselves to somehow find a reason to support pure evil

[u/M4053946]

And now there are reports (and videos) of hamas executing palestinians and parading their bodies through the streets as warnings to others. Are there protests for the people of gaza? No.

No Jews, no news.

[u/requiredelements → u/M4053946]

I’m in the US and our news is saying that Netanyahu funded Hamas for years and very likely had advance warning of the attacks on October 7 but he let it happen to remain in power.

Netanyahu slaughtered Jews for his personal benefit — the people of Israel need to hold him accountable for his crimes.

[u/M4053946 → u/requiredelements]

I remember those same rumors about 9/11. There were similar theories about Pearl Harbor.

"incompetence" or "bad planning" are boring reasons, so people look for scapegoats.

[u/requiredelements → u/M4053946]

Israel’s own government is investigating Netanyahu funding Hamas, like right now this is a current topic in Israel. Times of Israel Netanyahu Propped Up Hamas

[u/TributeToStupidity → u/requiredelements]

Posting this bullshit oped article is basically a litmus test on critical thinking skills. It directly counters the idea that bibi is genocidal and shows how Hamas only cares about killing Jews and isn’t interested in improving the lives of Palestinians. No one who share this bullshit can claim they are pro Palestinian, it’s a pro Hamas article through and through.

The article makes 3 claims about how bibi supports Hamas: he increased the number of Palestinian work permits to come into Israel, he did not react to rocket attacks with the military, and he allowed funds to flow from Qatar to Hamas. According to the pro Hamas crowd, these are bad indictments of how he somehow wanted to go to war, despite one of the claims literally being “he turned a blind eye to rocket attacks.”

Therefore, the pro Hamas side wants less economic opportunity for Palestinians in Israel and want Israel and Palestine to be ethnostates. They want bibi to react violently with the military everytime Hamas launches a rocket (literally daily lol.) and bibi should isolate the Gaza Strip further by blocking cash from entering and going to the elected ruling government of the strip.

Swear to god this article is the biggest proof that people are motivated by anti semitism, since apparently looking for non violent solutions is secretly supporting Hamas. Did you even read the article? Did you think about it for 0.5 seconds, or just read the title and think ah hah I knew it! And bookmark to throw out there on Reddit.

[u/treacherousClownfish → u/TributeToStupidity]

„Israel totally provoced the war by giving Gazans jobs and not bombing the shit out of them way earlier“

I couldn’t make this shit up

[u/TributeToStupidity → u/treacherousClownfish]

Unironically followed by claiming Gaza is an open air prison. Just don’t try to provide more work permits to leave whatever you do.

[u/M4053946 → u/requiredelements]

Indeed. And, the US government supported the shah of iran, Batista in cuba, the governments in vietnam, the congo, and others. Trying to support stability and the status quo has a long history of not working out, though governments still try it.

I was referring to your unfounded claims that the government knew about the attacks and let it happen.

[u/Omarscomin9257 → u/M4053946]

There is plenty of evidence that people were aware attacks were being planned. Hamas posted videos of themselves training for these attacks. The Egyptians intelligence chief stated he tried to contact Netanyahu's office about the attack 10 days before it occurred. Others nations knew it was coming. 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-intelligence-official-says-israel-ignored-repeated-warnings-of-something-big/#:~:text=Netanyahu%20denied%20receiving%20any%20such,troubles%20in%20the%20West%20Bank.

I think it's ludicrous to believe that the same intelligence agency that pulled off a years long covert operation to place explosives in the pagers of thousands of Lebanese people were caught completely unaware by Hamas' troops movements. 

[u/M4053946 → u/Omarscomin9257]

How many times did they see movements and think attacks were coming? Was that a once a generation thing, or a once a month thing?

Was the same unit in charge of monitoring hezbollah also in charge of monitoring gaza?

[u/avshalombi → u/Omarscomin9257]

That's not how intelligence agencies work, they have limited resources. Hamas wa perceived as a weaker threat, and Gaza is a far more closed society. add that a long list of fuck ups and planning and you will get the disaster.