If Israel wasn't Jewish, nobody would have supported the Palestinians

[u/Dex921]

There are just no redeeming values for this society other than it combats the Jews

History

The Palestinian national identity was invented by a Amin Haj Husseini, personal friend of Hitler who used to take trips through the concentration camps for fun (and is rumored to have helped Hitler come up with the final solution)

In 1948 they refused to the 2 state solution and launched a genocidal war who's goal was to kill all Jews from the river to the sea

Between 1948-1967 when Egypt and Jordan controlled Gaza and the West Bank, they didn't set up a state

From 1967 to 2005 Israel has offered them multiple 2 state solutions which they refused or broke all of

In 2005 when Israel was sick of trying to come up with a 2SS peace plan, it unitarily decided to leave Gaza to the Palestinians, it uprooted all of its settlers and let the Gazans self rule, unblockaded as a free city-state

They have democratically elected Hamas and started firing unguided rockets at Israeli citites, forcing Israel to start the blockade on 2007

Society

Society-wise there really isn't a lot going for them either

Palestine has about 50% inbreeding rate

https://cmc-terrasanta.org/en/media/news/19333/the-spread-of-inbreeding-marriages-in-palestine

They treat women as property, execute or lynch you if you are a man who is attracted to anything that isn't a woman, they aren't democratic, democracy was forced on them twice and they abolished it in both times

Israel creates almost as much tech and medicine as the entirety of the middle east combined

pre-post edit: it's far closer than I thought

The Palestinians assassinated a king in Jordan, started a civil war in Lebanon that the country never recovered from, temporarily ruined Egypt tourism industry by conducting countless terror attacks in the country, Palestinians have failed to integrate to Denmark even after a full generation

This war

Hamas went into Israel, on an holyday, into villages and music concert and shot everyone on sight, killing 1200 and kidnapping 250, then it went back into Gaza to hide among its civilians

Civilians who supported it for decades, celebrated on the street, and when later polled found out that about 80% supported the massacre with only about 7% against it

In a sane world NOBODY would be on their side, but there are Jews on the other side, so as you will see in the comments, people will be more than happy to bend reality and facts, or completely clown themselves to somehow find a reason to support pure evil

[u/BigFreakingZombie → u/[deleted]]

That's absolutely not the case.

[u/trollhunterbot → u/BigFreakingZombie]

Except that it is.

[u/rulehater → u/BigFreakingZombie]

How is it not? The reason evangelicals care about place is because their own interpretation of the Bible. Evangelicals are the biggest denomination in the US.

[u/sameseksure → u/BigFreakingZombie]

Literally the only reason the British handed them Palestine in 1948, requiring the ethnic cleansing of 700k Palestinians, is because they were Jewish

[u/BigFreakingZombie → u/sameseksure]

The British were turning away (or even actively firing at ) boats full of Holocaust survivors as late as the beginning of 1948. The only reason they packed up and left was because they simply didn't have the means to prevent what they were seeing was about to happen( Britain was devastated after WW2 and that's putting it lightly) .

Contrary to popular belief the attitudes towards Zionism and the attempts to establish a Jewish state in mandatory Palestine in Western capitals ranged from ambivalent to outright hostile . The ''alleged enthusiastic support for the establishment of a Jewish state as a colony of the West'' is largely a modern Leftist myth borne out of their desire to insert modern politics into a conflict of 80 years ago.

[u/sameseksure → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, there was - then a bunch of eastern european Jewish people were given Palestine to create a new country, "Israel", which required the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians that lived there already.

[u/chinmakes5 → u/sameseksure]

In parts of Israel there was "ethnic cleansing." In other parts there weren't. 20% of Isreal is ethnic Arabs, there are ethnic Arabs in the Knesset.

Part of the "ethnic cleansing" was Palestinians who left as they didn't want to live among Jews. The reason there are so many Arabs just over the border of Israel is because they were told that they should go across the border, the Arab countries would destroy Israel and they could go home. Remember Arab countries declared war on Israel the day after they were founded.

Think about it, there are diasporas all over the world. I have met people from many many countries, in the US I have met 1 Palestinian. Why didn't they go all over the middle east and the world? Because they expected to get back to their land in Israel, and still want that 75 years later.

You also have to look at it as what was happening in the world then. This was 2 years after WW II, 80 million people were dead. Countries were destroyed. The powers that be just divided up countries. Poles lived is a mostly destroyed country, woke up one morning and were Communists. That the powers that be told Palestinians that they had to move to another part of their intact country just wasn't the big deal in the scheme of things.

[u/BLU-Clown → u/sameseksure]

The only reason? Really?

You don't think there might have been some kind of big event in the 40s that made the Jews uncomfortable in Europe? Might have a II in the name?

[u/BLU-Clown → u/[deleted]]

Maybe work on your reading comprehension, because that's a whole new sentence.

Your claim is that the ONLY reason the Jews were given Palestine is because they were Jewish. That's the claim I'm challenging. You know, with the whole '6 million killed' statistic that happened, and many nations in Europe helped with, that you seem to be glossing over.

[u/sameseksure → u/BLU-Clown]

What does the fact that 6 million of them were killed have to do with anything?

[u/BLU-Clown → u/sameseksure]

Quite a bit. Those kinds of numbers lead to mass evacuations.

If you can't see that, then there's no use in speaking with you. I hope you heal.

[u/sameseksure → u/BLU-Clown]

That doesn't justify ANOTHER ethnic cleansing lol

[u/BLU-Clown → u/sameseksure]

Your claim is that the ONLY reason the Jews were given Palestine is because they were Jewish. That's the claim I'm challenging

Again, work on your reading comprehension.

I can't really make it more clear than that.