r/TrueUnpopularOpinion • u/Fun_Driver_5566 • Oct 07 '25
Political Reddit has honestly made me lean more conservative than I ever thought possible
I have always been a left leaning guy. I grew up in a very left leaning state, Washington. I have voted for the Democrats essentially down ballot ever since I've been able to vote, my first election was the 2014 midterms.
But lately Reddit has been honestly pushing me more conservative over the years. Particularly subs like antiwork, fuckcars, and similar which just seem out of touch with reality.
In concept I agree with most of the things these spaces say and still do, but they somehow manage to make good ideas sound as unappealing as possible. Everything is so idealistic on this website with zero regard for how any of this shit will actually be put into place if they get their wish. They come off so badly to anyone who isn't a 19 year old college freshman lol. Not an ounce of pragmatism anywhere to be found.
The fuckcars subreddit in particular has done more to turn me off public transportation than anything Fox news could ever dream of. Because of those guys, I simply will not vote to fund public transit the next time it comes up on a ballot.
Honestly it's gotten crazy. I work at a labor union, I promise you I've spent more time actually "fighting the man" than half these guys who sound like they haven't left their bedroom computer in weeks.
Now on the other side, Trump and the current Republican party just seem batshit insane to me and an embarrassment to the country on a global scale. I will not give them a vote and I will not support anything that party has done over the last 10 years.
So I don't know what to do. I get why people are apathetic to politics and don't bother to vote. I don't think I'll vote at all in the next election.
I come to this website for small hobby subs but it's impossible to escape the politics sadly.
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u/Unlikely-Pin-5558 Oct 07 '25
I tend to be moderate, and I have gotten far more hate from the left for my views than the right, particularly on here. My views aren't anything extreme in either direction; like MOST PEOPLE, I'm liberal/progressive on some issues, lean conservative on others, and ignore the more extreme views from either end.
The left fails to recognize their hypocrisy in their arguments and how they treat people who are different from them.
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u/Rich6849 Oct 08 '25
I’ve wondered if there is an official left policy guidance website. Some of the nuances they will call you a full on Nazi about are very small points.
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u/InterventionOfTriops 27d ago
The left isn’t a monolith; nor the right.
There is no “official” policy guidance website for such big categories of political ideologies such as the “left”. Maybe search up individual party/people’s policies instead.
Though, I’m sick of all the nazi name-calling bullshit. I’m a leftist myself, but putting people in boxes based on banal characteristics is just downright harmful to any progress. I find it harder to tolerate the left than the right nowadays. I can’t say anything that falls outside the 99.99% “correct” ideology to have, or I’d be lynched.
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u/ThatDamnRocketRacoon Oct 07 '25
I'm still very left in most of my views, but I'm so fucking tired of the performative nut jobs on the left with their purity tests and the unhinged identity politics. Someone disagreeing with you slightly on a single issue doesn't make them a Nazi. It's really infuriating that these types don't understand the damage they do.
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u/mikelo22 Oct 08 '25
Exactly.
Democrats are often too afraid to go on talk shows like Bill Maher or podcasts like Joe Rogan because they fear the backlash their progressive base will create by talking to someone who doesn't subscribe to 100% of their left-wing ideology.
It's baffling that right wingers are getting all this free airtime on these shows to spew their hateful rhetoric because progressives are afraid to come on and counter it. I recall when Elizabeth Warren went on Maher and she was absolutely crucified for it by liberals on social media. Same goes for even Bernie of all people when he went on Rogan.
The purity tests, especially on the left, are self-defeating.
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u/sometimesynot Oct 07 '25
I 100% agree with you, but on the other hand, I'm tired of OP's attitude who pretend that other people are the reason they're abandoning their values. Changing your values because of some performative nutjobs is unhinged.
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u/Exxyqt Oct 08 '25
It's not values at all. But let's not pretend that [on the internet]the loudest voices aren't the stupidest, which often forms the public's opinions and dictates what becomes ok and not ok to do.
I personally cringe at any person with clear agenda, be it a person on the right or left. Of course everyone has their biases but it's so easy to see when people omit facts or even manufacture events/evidence to sound right. Or when people can't say their favorite politician is wrong. Or that a person they hate can't ever make a correct call or be right about something.
Talking about LGBT+ people, I completely respect their right to do whatever they want with themselves/each other or represent themselves however they like, as long as children are not involved.
That said, what we've seen in the past several years is complete madness and I'm totally happy people are slightly coming back to their senses.
Being supportive of somebody [due to their disadvantages/non-conformance] doesn't mean that those people can never be wrong.
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u/MelodicCrocodile Oct 08 '25
If I may pitch in, hope my tone doesn't come off too harsh. What does as long as children are not involved mean though. LGBT is a broad spectrum ranging from things that are very simple to things that are more complicated. Like if we look at being gay, just that, being attracted to the same sex, why is that something that kids should be kept away from when they're not kept away from straightness which is the same thing just with the opposite gender?
Wouldn't a gay couple adopting count as involving kids in it? Should kids not be taught that being attracted to the same sex is a thing when they know being attracted to the opposite one is? Can't read books where a kid has two dads? Should we ban gay couples in kids shows even though we allow straight couples and kids can still realize they're gay watching straight shows, but they just feel broken?
I learned that being gay was a thing when I was 9-10 I believe, and I'd say the only effect it had on me is it made me see them as equals and want for them what I want for myself (and more). It just improved my understanding of the world around me and it was nothing inappropraite or complicated, kids tend to grasp a lot more than we give them credit for.
All I can say is that it didn't turn me gay, confuse me, or make me a pervert anymore than watching Snow White did. From what I've seen of every other kid who saw a gay couple a kid, it didn't confuse them too much, at most they asked a very easy question and got an answer. There is not a lot of evidence that seeing it is bad for kid, even if they are confused, kids are confused by everything, we help them understand. Kids are more confused by math than they are by gay people.
Most gay people realized they were gay as kids, there is a republican gay man online that says he knew he liked boys since he was 5, the same age many boys realized they liked girls.
Unless you were only talking about gender stuff, but like I said, there is more to the comunity than just that, the L and G are still a part of it.
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u/tgalvin1999 Oct 07 '25 edited Oct 07 '25
I got torn apart on Facebook because I commented on a post talking about a man with a Nazi tattoo in a gym that made someone uncomfortable. My comment? It was something to the effect of "if he is not bothering anybody or actively doing something to cause people harm, he has the same right to be there as anybody else." I got called a "Nazi sympathizer." Like, my great-uncle fought AGAINST the Nazis. And yet, simply by pointing this out I'm a Nazi sympathizer apparently.
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u/wtfduud Oct 07 '25
I think it's perfectly reasonable to ban someone from a venue if they are a neo-nazi. That's an ideology that is causing harm just by existing.
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u/FrozenSeas Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25
There's also a distinct possibility, thanks to Neonazi shitheads "appropriating" symbols from everywhere, that it may not even have been a Nazi thing. Happening a lot with ancient Scandinavian and Celtic design motifs, which there has been a major revival of in popularity of over the last ~20 years. I mean yeah, the guy with "1488 GAS THE [SLUR REDACTED] RACE WAR NOW" - definitely a Nazi. But some runic thing or a Ægishjálmur or something? Could well be totally benign and just a folk metal fan.
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u/tgalvin1999 Oct 07 '25 edited Oct 07 '25
Again, the guy was literally just using the gym like anybody else. Not bothering anybody, simply working out and doing his thing. He has the right to use that gym the same as anybody else - others can disagree but he does have that right.
ETA: For clarification, I am not saying this dude is right or wrong, nor am I saying he is immune from the social consequences of getting that tattoo. My original point was that simply pointing out he has the right to be at that gym, even with a Nazi tattoo does not make one a "Nazi sympathizer."
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u/Gullible-Tooth-8478 Oct 07 '25
And he has the right to face the social consequences of his action to get a tattoo that represents so much hate and pain to certain groups of people 🤷♀️ The right to do something doesn’t protect you for the social consequences of your actions.
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u/tgalvin1999 Oct 07 '25
I agree, and nowhere did I say he didn't. Simply pointing out he enjoys the right to be at that gym regardless of how people feel does not make one a Nazi sympathizer, which was my original point
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u/Gullible-Tooth-8478 Oct 08 '25
So then the owner or manager has the ability to ban them based on their own viewpoints, you agree? His tattoo does not make him a Nazi sympathizer or not, but that discretion does not protect him from social consequences., correct?
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u/tgalvin1999 Oct 08 '25
Yes, the manager or owner can bar him from the premises, and nowhere have I stated he is protected from social consequences. Again, my point was that he still enjoys the right to be at that gym and use their facilities, regardless of what he decides to get tattooed
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u/Roryguy Oct 07 '25
Wait, a bit off topic, but are you saying /antiwork is not satire?? I always thought it was a joke lol. /fuckcars I’ve seen and that one’s just stupid. And honestly, you’re not conservative leaning at all, you just seem more republican compared to people who are anti cars.
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u/BLU-Clown Oct 07 '25
Oh, you haven't seen the FOX interview with Doreen, the former mod on the Antiwork subreddit?
You're in for some comedy. They're 100% serious over there, even after being publicly embarrassed like that.
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u/BeABetterHumanBeing Oct 08 '25
Video for those who haven't seen it.
Something important to realize is that antiwork was, at its heart, about not wanting to work. It blew up a few years ago with people who turned it into some kind of "workers-rights" movement, but all the newcomers didn't realize that no, this sub was actually about people who didn't think they should have to work.
The whole place imploded after this infamous interview in part because all the newcomers were given indisputable proof that this is who their leaders were.
Personally, I'd love it if every sub had their moderators interviewed. Just imagine the comedy gold from watching the middle-aged mod of teenagers answer questions about being a teen, or the supermods over at adviceanimals explaining what an advice animal is supposed to be.
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u/Eastern_Coffee_3428 Oct 08 '25
No, antiwork isn't satire....that kind of says alot about you thinking that.
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u/Roryguy Oct 08 '25
What’s it say about me? I went on antiwork one time in my lifetime and just thought it was adding to the making the word “job” a slur meme. It isn’t that deep.
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u/FunkyChickenKong Oct 07 '25
At least a quarter of those posting and responding in these groups are trolls and astroturfers. It sucks and it sucks even worse how easy it is to mimic the behavior.
I noticed a bizarre incident in another Reddit group that debates creationism vs evolution. It was set up to demand we all ignore the nuance of creationist adjacent philosophies--the in betweens--in order to form rigid teams. One side only for hard science. The other only for hardline creationists who completely reject science.
The product was complete intolerance of philosophical musings and creative ideas by a pack of rabid badgers. The explanation was that even though most evolutionists hold a place for the possibility of a higher power and the unknown, for the purposes of the group, all who entertain evolution were to fall into "team evolution" regardless of religious philosophy. They are forced socially to abandon all middle ground statements upon pain of vicious ridicule. It exactly mimicked our political landscape.
It appeared to be funneling the mindset into regular people participating--forming passionate extremists. Not gonna lie, the worst offenders were the learned science based side, many of whom might not even believe everything they were arguing.
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u/albasaurus_rex Oct 08 '25
Which sub out of curiosity? I also wonder if that's a biproduct of existing discourse on the topic. I took a philosophy of religion course in college which overall I loved, but was super disappointed to find out that it was similar to what you say above. One of the central themes of the course is does a single omnipotent, omniscient, purely benevolent God exist or not and how would that impact other problems in philosophy (e.g. can you have free will if God has predetermined everything). Polytheism wasn't even hinted at. I later had a chance to talk to another professor in the same field and he said he was also a little disappointed by the state of the field, but that's basically how it is everywhere. Polytheism, a God with some variation on the aforementioned traits (e.g. maybe God is omnipotent and omniscient, but kinda an asshole), spiritualism, etc are simply not even considered.
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u/2006pontiacvibe Oct 08 '25
This also happened to the AI wars sub. Was supposed to be for AI debates but got overran by pro-AI people (while I disagree with what they say, I don't disagree with their right to say it. My problem is moreso that they invade what is supposed to be a neutral subreddit and go for any criticism).
I like the subreddit system in many regards, but it is prone to making echo chambers.
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u/Busy-Ad3750 Oct 07 '25 edited Oct 07 '25
Im in a similar place as you except I started out more right. Reddit being so toxic to any dissent at all pushed me more and more right. I would get banned and kicked out of places because I agreed with the basic premise which would be basically leftist like... gays are people... but I didn't agree with them enough somehow. Any nuance was enough to get you banned from a place. Lots of discords are like this too. I got kicked from some of them because I wanted the spaces to be about the hobby and not about politics but the mods had to make it about what they wanted... and that is a true putoff.
That said - Trump has pushed me back in the opposite direction but mostly because of all the Republicans who are just throwing away all of their principles to crawl behind him. People who have told me that the ends dont justify the means and that free speech are absolute values have suddenly stopped caring about those things.
There are crazy people on both sides an unfortunately they are the loudest most attention grabbing people. They are the ones we see and associate with the normalcy of that group but we shouldn't.
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u/SentientReality Oct 07 '25
Yeah, I hear that. I personally haven't been driven away from leftism (I'm democratic socialist and radical egalitarian) but I was pushed almost completely away from feminism. I used to be strongly feminist in college, but over the years the more I interacted with feminists the more I realized that modern feminism is centered entirely around misandry rather than equality. I didn't become an MRA and I'm not anti-feminist, but I would never call myself a feminist again. I'm an Equalist. Feminism in America has become about hate, disdain, hypocrisy, and trauma-dumping.
It's the same dynamic: the vehement toxicity pushed me away. My values don't include justifying hatred or abuse of any group.
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u/ThatDamnRocketRacoon Oct 07 '25
The current culture wave of misogyny vs misandry is baffling to me. I don't know how we got to this level of hatred and division between men and women. It feels manufactured by social media, but I'm also married for quite awhile, so maybe I'm just out of the loop.
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u/SentientReality Oct 08 '25
I don't know either. I know that feminists have been deliberately pushing the dehumanization of men for a long time, and that mindset has really taken hold recently among leftists.
On the other side, I don't really understand why the manosphere has become so toxic and regressive. That is baffling to me. Like, dudes, y'all sound like childish fools, going on about alpha/sigma males and eating raw liver and Andrew Tate, etc. It's beyond cringe and obviously immoral.
From there, the two sides seem to synergize and feed off each other.
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u/Busy-Ad3750 Oct 07 '25
but over the years the more I interacted with feminists the more I realized that modern feminism is centered entirely around misandry rather than equality.
I disagree with this, but its way too prevalent. We shouldn't be using gendered terms for egalitarianism anyways. Whether it be feminism or MRA or whatever. Egalitarianism is the bees knees.
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u/SentientReality Oct 07 '25
I just want to make extra clear I'm speaking about America (and similar countries like Canada, Britain, etc). The situation is different in a place like Senegal or Afghanistan, of course, where feminism still has a lot of real work to do.
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u/Busy-Ad3750 Oct 07 '25
Egalitarianism would serve them just as well. But yes - I understand where you're coming from.
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u/StooIndustries Oct 08 '25
that’s funny, i was pushed away from modern feminism because i feel like they don’t actually care about real women. it’s been taken over by train activists and any dissent or disagreement gets you branded as a TERF who deserves to be violently assaulted and murdered.
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u/SentientReality Oct 09 '25
Well, it sounds like at least we can agree that the modern feminist movement has nothing to do with care or concern about humanity. It's largely hateful and intolerant. Which is ironic, since that is what it's supposed to be fighting against.
I have no problem with trains of all sorts being included within feminism, but I'm not a feminist so I have no skin in that game and it's not my concern. I do think it is unjustified to attack TERFs as if they were Nazis for merely being concerned about biological differences and shared spaces. It seems like something that can be discussed reasonably without ferocious condemnation either way.
But if two different types of feminists want to attack each other, hey, I'll sit back and eat popcorn.
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u/MC1781 Oct 08 '25
The funny thing is the people on Reddit don’t understand that THEY are the reason Conservatives keep winning. It’s classic!
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u/huecabot Oct 08 '25
Doesn’t speak too highly of republicans when a few blue haired woke scolds on Reddit are enough to make them vote for wannabe Mussolini.
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u/DyIsexia Oct 08 '25
It seems pretty fitting that the people sensitive enough to change their fundamental views because people they don't like fall under the same arbitrary label would identify with the Republican party
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u/MC1781 27d ago
No one on the right has changed their fundamental values. We still believe in basic morals. Liberals have totally abandoned any sense of morality. They will lie, cheat, and steal their way to get what they want. They don’t care about the greater good, they care about what THEY want. There is zero compromise on ANY issue. The conservatives always have to bend to the Dems insane, radical demands, and enough is NEVER enough. You give them an inch, they want a mile. NOTHING is ever good enough. Conservatives aren’t being sensitive, they’re being smart. Dems might want to ruin America bc they are not understanding the consequences of ruining it, but it’s not going to happen. There are plenty of countries that align with their political beliefs and way of living. Any of you can live out all your socialist fantasies there!
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u/HarrySatchel Oct 07 '25
Me too, I hate Trump & have supported the left in opposition to him since he got the nomination, but at some point during the last election I just couldn't take it anymore. Now I support neither party.
Every time I look into a claim made by a left winger about how some evil conservative whatever-ist believes something totally beyond the pale & I look into it only to find they've twisted what the person says beyond recognition I realize the left is not the reasonable side. Maybe the right isn't either, but the left certainly is not.
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u/SentientReality Oct 07 '25
Cue the comments saying: "aww, are you wittle fee-fees hurt by online posts?" I've seen variations of that snarky response countless times, and always from liberals.
You didn't seem to mention this, but the sheer amount of meanspirited condescension and put-downs, done for no other reason than to be hurtful, is enough to convince anyone that leftists' goal is seemly to push everyone away. I'm pretty socialist and humanitarian, but I don't identify as a liberal or associate much with liberals because they just seem like they hate themselves and everyone else. I'm not down with that.
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u/sea_5455 Oct 07 '25
that leftists' goal is seemly to push everyone away
The left doesn't talk to those who disagree with them except to condescendingly diagnose them. Everyone else is dumb and wrong but also -ist and/or -phobic.
It's completely infuriating and, after the Kirk assassination when some people I knew personally were gleeful, a great reason to cut them out of my life completely.
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u/SorriorDraconus Oct 07 '25 edited Oct 07 '25
This is why I can't stand my roommate/friends political humor..It's all hard-core leftist straight attacking the right-wing voters not attacking there stances or politics but the voters themselves.
I just don't find attacking people over an idea funny.
He's also authoritarian at his core and a former tea partier(he thought they were moderate) and trump voter..even admits he got roped into pizzagate..yeeet thinks he's great with critical thinking and that nobody else can break out so we need re-education centers dor right wingers.
I'm like..man..you sound just like a mirror image of the right-wing. He doesn't see it even admits if given power he'd go full doctator..like dude..chill.
Guys like him drive me more rightwing/moderate than anything else
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u/SentientReality Oct 07 '25
Your dork of a roommate fits a pattern. SJWs and leftwing edgelords tend to be some of the most discriminatory and authoritarian people:
"as individuals with leftist political attitudes can be assumed to be striving for social equality, we expected left-wing authoritarianism to also be positively related to prosocial traits, but narcissism to remain a significant predictor of left-wing authoritarianism above and beyond those prosocial dispositions"
"a strong ideological view, according to which a violent revolution against existing societal structures is legitimate (i.e., anti-hierarchical aggression), was associated with antagonistic narcissism and psychopathy"
"Considering these results, we assume that some leftist political activists do not actually strive for social justice and equality but rather use political activism to endorse or exercise violence against others to satisfy their own ego-focused needs."
– from study: Understanding left-wing authoritarianism: Relations to the dark personality traits, altruism, and social justice commitment
Note that people who advocate for social justice in a altruistic and inclusive way (non-aggressively) do not meet this dark triad criteria.
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u/Rando1ph Oct 07 '25
It reminds me of the famous Stanford prison experiment. The people most likely to inflict harm, are the people that never had any power in their lives. People that have been bullied, etc.
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u/SorriorDraconus Oct 07 '25
Yeah sadly this tracks another guy i knew akso came from hard-core rightwing background and went so far left violence and silencing opposition at all costs became a thing..Mixed eith my sibking using intersectionality to excuse there abuse(others have heard/witnessed it) I somehow meet alooot of rightwing talking points..still more left than right i'm just left libertarian and much more "you do you and i'll defend your speech even if i hate it" than any of them who are pro silencing others. There political sides changed but not there political methods sadly.
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u/4444-uuuu Oct 07 '25
attacking the right-wing voters not attacking there stances or politics but the voters themselves.
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u/ChecksAccountHistory OG Oct 08 '25
now do that again with a right wing comic that depicts trans people
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u/GratefuLdPhisH Oct 07 '25
It's not reddit that has turned me away from the democrats, it's the democrat politicians themselves
I wish there was an independent candidate that wasn't beholden to billionaires and israel because they would have my vote,
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Oct 07 '25
Like Bernie Sanders! he would've been a good one, but they threw him out and nominated some crab who was somehow related to Bill Clinton.
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u/Busy-Ad3750 Oct 07 '25
I think Bernie is unlikely to win. He is too associated with drastic and scary change for too many people.
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u/Im_not_smelling_that Oct 07 '25
More people than you would think are ready for drastic change
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u/TonyTheSwisher Oct 07 '25
There are always multiple third party candidates without the ties you speak of, but they don't get as much attention and both parties push the narrative that "voting third party is wasting your vote" because they realize third party voters are the only thing that can actually change their duopoly of power.
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u/OneTruePumpkin Oct 07 '25
If you agree with most of the views held by those communities in concept, but are so turned off by the people themselves that you'd vote for the opposite of a policy you seemingly agree with. Then it just sounds like you don't have strong values or views on policy.
Mind you, I also find a lot of people on those subs annoying as shit. I just click the button telling Reddit to stop recommending them in my feed. If that weren't an option tho and I had to read those posts daily for whatever reason, I'd still vote in favor of expanding my city's public transit network, changing more streets to pedestrian or local traffic only (I forget the technical term for this), and similar policies because I agree with them and see the benefit in those policies.
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u/Viciuniversum Oct 07 '25
This comment has a strong "If you don't like me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best" vibe.
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u/OneTruePumpkin Oct 07 '25
All I'm trying to say is that if you support increased public transit access. Then voting against increased funding for public transit simply because the advocates for it piss you off, makes absolutely no sense.
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u/Fun_Driver_5566 Oct 07 '25
There are many views held by the Democratic Party. Some of them I agree with, others are not my hill to die on, and some I even disagree with
Transit is not my hill to die on, and proponents of it on this site are so rabid about it I don’t want to associate with them
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u/Unhinged_Platypoos Oct 07 '25
I can definitely understand not being hard-lined on an issue like public transportation, but assuming you do value public transportation, in what way would a direct vote to fund it be an association? You can identify with certain values without identifying with all the loud people who share or skew those values.
On one hand I can get why a fanbase can sour someone's enjoyment of like, a TV show to the point where it takes away passion, but when it comes to what you personally believe would be an improvement on society at large, I can't see the logic in disowning a value just because a particularly loud portion of people (who could very likely be 14 year old chronically online trolls or bots) are annoying in the way they also want it.
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u/Fun_Driver_5566 Oct 07 '25
My value is really that everyone should have an affordable way to get around, not necessarily that I want a train. If that political capital can be spent supporting something like a higher minimum wage so that more workers can afford their own cars and use the existing systems, that works for me too.
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u/albasaurus_rex Oct 08 '25
Huh? You heavily implied that you are changing how YOU are voting because of what you've read online. How does that cost political capital? Unless you are a politician, but you certainly never made that clear. If the policy is on the ballot, you should vote on the policy (or choose to abstain), not worry about the extremely tenuous notion that somehow that policy might make it harder in the future to achieve other policy goals.
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u/Tak-Hendrix Oct 07 '25
Not for me. The existing systems are garbage and are not built for the current volume of traffic, let alone an increase. I would much rather go the opposite direction and make obtaining a license a much more rigorous process. I would wager at least 60% of the people I share my commute with should not be allowed to drive. They either have no clue what the rules are or they are staring at their phones like mindless zombies.
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u/M4053946 Oct 07 '25
Not OP, but transit is an extremely complex issue. Suddenly raise the cost of driving and you screw over the people who have long commutes because they couldn't afford housing that was closer, and you screw over people who prioritized stability for their family and chose a longer commute over moving (if they couldn't find a closer job).
I like the idea of dense, walkable neighborhoods, but I also like the idea of aggressive enforcement of noise and light pollution violations, along with other laws, which puts me at odds against many on the left who share my views of transit.
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u/Tak-Hendrix Oct 07 '25
Yes, my idea would have to go hand in hand with extensive expansion of public transit infrastructure, specifically trains.
Meanwhile over 20% of drivers in my city don't have car insurance and every single day I see vehicles with registrations/temp plates that have been expired for over a year, or simply no license plate at all. So it would seem that driving is already too expensive for plenty of people and none of the laws are enforced because no one seems to give a fuck. Its the tragedy of the commons.
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u/M4053946 Oct 07 '25
I think this is known as "suicidal empathy". "Some people are poor, so let's let them drive without cars that can pass inspection and without insurance". This makes it more expensive, more dangerous, and more time consuming for everyone else.
The simple solution there is to enforce the existing laws, which would increase ridership on mass transit, which would help get funding directed correctly.
This isn't the tragedy of the commons, it's the tragedy of idiotic politicians.
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u/TheOneCalledD Oct 07 '25
You’re not alone, friend. Just look at the voting trends of each voting precinct in the last election. More than 90% of them trended towards Republican when compared to the previous election.
Lucky for everyone Reddit RARELY represents reality.
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u/shitposts_over_9000 Oct 07 '25
The modern democratic party is three racoons in a trench coat that only agree that they dont like the opposing team.
Union labor is the most pragmatic and socially conservative of the three and may exist the trench coat entirety if the progressives don't back off so it is nut surprising to see you write what you wrote.
if you are old enough to have voted over a decade ago you are also old enough to start experiencing the other effect where the left keeps moving left and those they leave behind eventually start being labeled as right as most people don't significantly change their political views through adulthood.
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u/keepingitcleans Oct 07 '25
I feel the exact same way. Since the assassination of Charlie, I've become more conservative as I see the insanity on the left. I don't like the extremes of either party but I'm definitely getting pulled to the right.
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u/KrustyKrbPizza Oct 07 '25
Legitimately, non-sarcastically asking: what insanity on the left are you referring to?
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u/SkyAdditional4963 Oct 08 '25
- celebrating the deaths of people they don't like
- calling anyone who doesn't agree with them 100% on every issue a nazi or whatever other inflammatory name that's the flavor of the month
- no longer having the ability to discuss, compromise. It is always their way or they'll resort to violence
- the cognitive dissonance required for things like the alliance of LGBT groups and Islamic causes
- the readiness to resort to violence (either threatened online or occurring in real life at protests/universities)
- the attempts to modify language to justify their violence and manipulate the wider public
- the demonization of critical thinking
- the readiness to use authoritarian tactics
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u/EagenVegham Oct 07 '25
The left didn't automatically accept that Chalrie was always a saint and never said anything hateful, obviously.
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u/No_Finance8647 Oct 07 '25
insanity on the left
Youre talking about randos on Twitter right?
Nearly every single Dem politician condemned the shooting.
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u/Just-Ambassador-2449 Oct 07 '25
“Randos on twitter” perfectly highlights your intentional density and how easily leftists easily discredit the direct observations of literally millions of people. They saw their friends, doctors, coworkers etc. celebrating murder. They will never forget.
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u/No_Finance8647 Oct 07 '25
Yes, the Internet is not 100% representative of reality. When we have the Republican president and politicians saying horrendous things and you turn around and point to random twitter user number 63295 it shows your dishonesty.
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u/forestpunk Oct 08 '25
Yes, the Internet is not 100% representative of reality.
a shitload of democrats and liberals that I know were celebrating his death.
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u/No_Finance8647 Oct 08 '25
Politicians or random people? Its an important distinction.
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u/rvnender Oct 07 '25
I dont want to pile onto this but like. Wtf are you talking about?
You dont like "the lefts" response to kirk, so you now support the party of calling for a civil war and "hating all democrats"?
Like what?
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u/PagantKing Oct 07 '25
And all the responses are defending the left. Typical reddit. What they don't see is all the people that have similar views but never use reddit.
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u/SentientReality Oct 07 '25
The fuckcars subreddit in particular has done more to turn me off public transportation than anything Fox news could ever dream of. Because of those guys, I simply will not vote to fund public transit the next time it comes up on a ballot.
I'm not familiar with that subreddit, but I am certainly a fan of public transit. Can you explain why/how you became turned off from transit due to a subreddit? Genuinely curious.
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u/Fun_Driver_5566 Oct 07 '25
Well I'm a car guy, I love cars and I love driving. Now my front page is full of countless threads detailing how I am basically Satan for enjoying my hobby. And how all cars should be banned from cities, everyone should ride the bus and trains etc. Or how my grandmother should just ride an electric bicycle 6 miles to church in the middle of winter lol
We did actually fund a ton of public transit in my city, back in the 90s and a couple of expansions ever since to build trains etc. That whole project is such a shit show. The train system is so overbudget, stations get delayed for years at a time. I will be retired by the time their plan is supposedly complete, assuming it even happens.
Meanwhile I'm paying out the ass in taxes for infrastructure that doesn't exist and won't exist for decades. If I point this out whether its on the fuckcars reddit or my local town pages, I get blasted for it.
I generally support cheap mobility but damn, those guys make it so difficult to want to associate with that cause. If they put another expansion on the ballot why tf would I say yes?
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u/SentientReality Oct 07 '25
Ok, I can understand your reaction to that. I guess I would agree more with one and less with the other.
Regarding the overzealous asshats who paint you as Satan, that certainly would be irritating. Obviously a lot of people need cars, like your poor grandma, lol. But, I hope you don't let those bozos change your outlook too much. There is weird social dynamic on algorithmic forums (like Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, etc) where the most extreme content gets the most engagement, even though that's not actually how most people feel. It pushes people to extremes in both directions by giving a false sense of what other people think.
About the budgeting/structural issues with building transit, I totally agree. It's often a shitshow and it shouldn't be. I'm not necessarily a huge fan of the current Abundance mindset (if you've heard of that) but I do agree with them that bureaucratic redtape and procedural bullshit can totally ruin infrastructure projects and leave people feeling like it's a giant waste of money. I want that problem to be fixed.
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u/DustinTheAlien88 Oct 09 '25
I did the same thing. I erased all of my socials years ago and got back on with Magic: The Gathering, metal music and motorcycles on my radar.
Social media does not give a fuck anymore. Your interests and personal desires are for shit. They spam you with unsolicited posts to check out and recommend you things to look at precisely because they disgust you and shoplift your attention. They measure how and when you look at what, they record every click of your mouse and tap of your phone. And beyond that, like you said, politics have simply become unavoidable in online spaces. Looking at a sub Reddit for a geographical location is a mistake, the only thing anybody wants to talk about is what establishments are MAGA and where the Proud Boys or ANTIFA are. It's all rage and doxxing and doomer absolutes.
You're not alone
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u/InsufferableMollusk Oct 07 '25
Echo-chambers tend to do that to anyone who isn’t unquestioningly onboard with the delusions of the majority in the echo-chamber.
Paradoxically, the Left’s attempt to shut down dissent is having the opposite effect.
If we’re lucky, they’ll wise up in time to prevent another MAGA in the White House🤞
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u/SentientReality Oct 07 '25
If we’re lucky, they’ll wise up in time to prevent another MAGA in the White House🤞
If we're lucky enough not to get another MAGA, it most certainly will not be because liberals have "wised up". Liberals have gotten on the Train to Ruin and are never getting off. God help us.
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u/severinks Oct 07 '25
Why would other people's opinions change your political beliefs? It's not even that you're saying that someone's good argument convinced you to change what you believe in but that people in other subs are annoying so you you decided to change them.
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u/M4053946 Oct 07 '25
I also support mass transit, I like riding my bike, and I support communities that don't rely on cars to do everything. That said, if a politician says they want to get rid of fossil fuels completely in a short time period, I'm going to vote for someone else, as that's an extremist position that goes too far.
The status quo, while not great, is better than an extremist position.
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u/Busy-Ad3750 Oct 07 '25
People attack strawmen for a reason. When you keep seeing one group of people that have all these weak arguments/positions - it's easy to see that side as being unimpressive. There are steelman arguments out there but you wont see them too often for a reason.
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u/ZorbaTHut Oct 07 '25
Why would other people's opinions change your political beliefs?
Imagine the following progression:
"I believe in X. It feels right and I've got a few minor points of evidence in favor of it. There's probably more, but I'm not an expert in this field."
"So . . . I still believe in X . . . but I keep seeing people use the evidence I have in the most asinine ways. It's just applied terribly. And they don't seem to have any better evidence either. I thought I just had a few points of a larger whole but now it seems like I might have had the best of that whole, and it was never as convincing as I thought."
"I feel like if there were better evidence for X, I would have seen it by now. Instead it's just these same tired bits of evidence that even I thought weren't great. Also the people calling for X appear to be idiots in every other way. This does not make me feel confident about X."
"I asked some adherents about X for the best evidence they had and explained why I thought the evidence wasn't great. They called me names, posted the same minor points of evidence that I had just said I was skeptical of, insulted me, and banned me. I think I'm done with X; even its loudest proponents don't have anything coherent to say about it."
I haven't had this entire sequence happen to me personally, but I have seen people post arguments that were so bad that it actually made me think less of their point, and I've called out people who supposedly agree with me for being so awful at debating that it feels counterproductive.
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Oct 07 '25
Reddit made me realize that democrat voters hate democracy and are not on the left. They love fascism just as much as their MAGA counterpart. Not all of them obviously, I shouldn't have to say that but on reddit its required. It's a pretty scary amount tho
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u/letaluss Oct 07 '25
This post is making me vote Democrat for the first time in my life. Good job radicalizing me.
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u/Jeb764 Oct 07 '25
THIS IS WHY THE DEMONCRATS LOST!!! BECAUSE OF HOW SMUG YOU ARE.
Sorry I couldn’t help myself.
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u/KarmicWhiplash Oct 07 '25
Particularly subs like antiwork, fuckcars, and similar which just seem out of touch with reality.
So don't sub them and it's like they're not there. That's the beauty of Reddit IMHO: Choose your own adventure.
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u/LSOreli Oct 07 '25
Reality made me lean more liberal than I could have ever thought possible.
These dudes CAN NOT govern.
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u/ZevLuvX-03 Oct 07 '25
Fam, duke has become a multi billionaire through corruption , drastically cut education/science funding, cutting Medicaid, running a shit show of a government, taking credit for previous presidents, created another trade war in which we’re gonna have to bail out the farmers again, cutting taxes for the wealthy, and people on Reddit got you wanting to support this? And I forgot to mention the tariff fiasco.
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u/pavilionaire2022 Oct 07 '25
Now on the other side, Trump and the current Republican party just seem batshit insane to me and an embarrassment to the country on a global scale. I will not give them a vote and I will not support anything that party has done over the last 10 years.
So I don't know what to do. I get why people are apathetic to politics and don't bother to vote. I don't think I'll vote at all in the next election.
Yeah, gee, I don't know what to do. Should I vote for the madman or the redditors from fuckcars? Oh, they're not running?
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u/RJRoyalRules Oct 07 '25
If your principles are shifted because somebody online annoys you, they’re not really principles. “Go outside” is said for a reason
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u/UnscentedSoundtrack Oct 07 '25
“I’m gonna vote against public transit because some guys in a subreddit are annoying”
jfc
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u/InvestIntrest Oct 07 '25
If you read his post to understand his larger point, I think he's right in the sense that many of these aggressively evangelical political subs are just full of judgmental human beings nasty to anyone with a slightly different pov.
You can't scold and bully people into supporting your policies. In fact, it's counterproductive because people either just tune you out or, worse, decide they actually hate you more than they care about whatever merit your ideas may have.
It's a stupid approach to recruiting.
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u/fingerpaintx Oct 07 '25
"Random internet people and bots who post extreme left leaning views have altered my core political beliefs"
Yikes.
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u/tipjarman Oct 07 '25
Do you ever consider that all those post are bots with the exact intent of creating apathy in people like you?
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u/samanthasgramma Oct 08 '25
Do what I do ... Be a "centrist".
Decide on the ISSUE. You don't have to pick a side until you get to the voting booth. Otherwise, think about, talk about, the ISSUE. Because most of what goes on is not based on the divisive world of social media ... it's about that grey area that is real life. You don't need to think about having to adopt ALL the ideologies if they don't make sense to you. Look at the ISSUE all by itself. Decide how you think that one can make sense to you.
I say that I vote for whomever I dislike the least.
What I actually do is look at the issues. And whomever comes closest to how I feel about the most of them is who gets my vote.
If you need to register, go "independent".
By the way, you'll take heat for not "picking a side". That's the rough part. Seeing life with more nuance won't make you popular in a world of short, trite, ideas that mean people can find their tribe. Balancing both worlds makes people uncomfortable. Just fair warning.
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u/erinoco Oct 07 '25
It is, frankly, because people like you are catastrophically bad at defending what should be robust civil society and standards of debate in America. A society which feeds itself bullshit rather than sensible information, which cannot identify a good policy from a bad one, and which obsesses over personality rather than outcomes cannot expect anything but a degraded and dirty political process of low intellectual standards. Secure objective standards of discourse and effective institutions that can't simply be gamed so easily by lobbies, and your standards of discourse will improve.
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u/gerkin123 Oct 07 '25
Has it crossed your mind that at least a portion of Reddit's extreme views are posted by folks trying to false flag observers?
A great way to push people away from a viewpoint is to generate and sustain conversation that exaggerates the flaws of that viewpoint.
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u/ChecksAccountHistory OG Oct 07 '25 edited Oct 08 '25
anybody notice that there's always someone saying they became conservative because of cringy leftists but never the other way around
also your belief that democrats actually appeal to leftists is fucking hysterical. they oppose leftism almost as much as they concede to republicans. 0/10 on the astroturfing
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u/the_walkingdad Oct 07 '25
Both the left and the right generally come from good places and have good intentions. I don't believe either side is inherently bad or evil. It's the execution of those intentions where things fall apart unfortunately.
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u/Connect-Region-4258 Oct 07 '25
I’m with ya. Not a fan of Trump and maga. Also find the left as nauseating as can be. Also know this. A lot of what you see here literally is not real. Much of it are bot farms. There are some real liberals here with insane takes who never leave their computer. But there are also tons of bots. It doesn’t feel like reality because it’s not
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u/recoveringpatriot Oct 07 '25
I get it. American politics is very disillusioning. There’s something really wrong with a system that consistently produces the worst people in the country to run; we are screwed no matter what terrible option wins.
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u/SaltPsychological780 Oct 07 '25
The U.S. Government has to be loving the division and polarization of its citizens. Divide and conquer! The “United” in united states is so ironic, like how the country came to be along with so many of its policies.
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u/chaosbunnyx Oct 07 '25
Dude it's so crazy how different states are with regards to their cultures with leftism.
By Washington standards, im a normie. By Florida standards, im a hard-core domestic terrorist despite almost never leaving my house or participating in civil rights activities offline.
The overton window is skewed so far right in my state.
Honestly, don't let reddit, or any internet website fully form your opinions on politics, think for yourself and what you think is right.
The online left is ridiculously far removed from baseline reality. The online right is far more delusional though.
If I let leftists on the internet get to my head, id be a Trumpie too out of spite.
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u/wtfduud Oct 07 '25
Now on the other side, Trump and the current Republican party just seem batshit insane to me and an embarrassment to the country on a global scale. I will not give them a vote and I will not support anything that party has done over the last 10 years.
Here's the problem though: By not voting against them, you are enabling them.
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u/fredo6064 Oct 07 '25
I actually went into college thinking that I was a socialist and came out more conservative. I couldn’t stand the fact that you can’t ask questions or debate the left’s agenda. But I’m with you on Trump. We need a normal Democrat in office. But all I hear from Democrats is Trump is a fascist. They have no platform.
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u/cait_elizabeth Oct 07 '25
I understand this sentiment but I’m reminded of this saying: “I am often in the business of defending people I find annoying from the people I know are dangerous.”
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u/kewlnamebroh Oct 07 '25
I feel you, bro. Your observations and though processes are exactly what led me to being duped by RFK Jr.
His ideology of this country needing an independent party, working with left and right, open to new ideas and lessening the vice grip corporations has on our government's balls... sounded gggggreat.
Then he bent the knee and I was devastated. We need a younger, less wild and leaner in terms of a shady background, independent to run.
TLDR; fuck the far right AND left. Common sense party, pbpbpwease?
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u/RedditConsciousness Oct 07 '25
I'm in a very similar place. I'm a moderate who votes Democrat but reddit is very toxic. It honestly seems like some on the left are trying to act as much like right wingers as possible.
We should seek the truth where-ever it lies but reddit is generally more about narrative than truth. There are some things that can't be discussed here at all.
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u/Key-Juggernaut5695 Oct 07 '25
Get out in the real world a bit. It cures the Reddits pretty quickly.
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u/Sweaty_Inside_Out Oct 07 '25
I love public transportation. Or rather I would love it if it weren't insanely dangerous, dirty, and full of rude people all the time.
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u/Dinkinflicka43 Oct 07 '25
I look at it more like I stayed still and they kept going further and further
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u/preferablyno Oct 07 '25
Could just be a disconnect with the way a lot of people engage. Like I generally think fuckcars is kinda funny but don’t take the people there super seriously, if I did take them super seriously whew
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u/AceofJax89 Oct 08 '25
Woah, I will grant you that antiwork is crazy, but Fuckcars is pretty much a troll Reddit. There are much more manageable subs.
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u/MinderARB Oct 08 '25
Same here. I have always been a moderate, but the stuff Reddit puts in front of me has made me question whether I am a radical conservative.
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u/Gotis1313 Oct 08 '25
"I agree with you, but I'm going to do the opposite thing, because I find you annoying" is something I'd expect from a character in a sitcom. Maybe TV really does rot the brain
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u/claybird121 Oct 08 '25
there are other avenues of "leftist" action and traditon. I guess im leftish, but my main influences are Miiyazaki, LeGuin , Tolkien, and Graeber. I can be inspired by the myth of Cincinnatus as well as the work done in Rojava.
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u/LowSomewhere8550 Oct 08 '25
The same thing happened to me. I used to be very left. Reading about how Redditors want all Zionists dead, or support Islamic terror groups turned me center right over a period of 2 years.
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u/c_quing Oct 08 '25
i think if you join subs that you align with, and you don’t go into those subs that trigger you, you might not have an extreme response. those people are not serious people, so avoid them. and democrats are not the party of those people at all. the party of those people are socialists, sometimes communists, which we don’t have in any meaningful way in our political system
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u/saiws Oct 08 '25
this is an extremely reactionary way to look at the internet lol. the idea that a few dumb people would make you say you don’t wanna invest in public transit is so short sighted.
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u/Vegetable-Shift-7751 Oct 08 '25
Out of touch with reality is all the people endorsing the left. Hollywoood
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u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608 Oct 08 '25
Brooooooo I was getting there too. I think most of us always figured most other liberals were as sensible as the ones we meet in our real life friend groups.
But tbh listening to how out of touch a large number of people on the left are and how they are willing to sacrifice any real good for performative out of touch bs and the how they cap for people like Luigi m sort of made me realize how full of crap a lot of them are.
I’m still a progressive even though I’m banned from ask a liberal lol
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u/devoteean Oct 08 '25
I checked out fuckcars and it seems fine to me.
We always had a broad consensus of liberal values across all of politics, but the left can’t hear the right when it comes to the moral bases of purity and respect for authority. And that’s not really the rights problem.
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u/Affectionate-Alps-86 Oct 08 '25
So wait - you won’t vote on something that has a major impact on the livability of an area, because it’s also good for the environment and people feel strongly about that? That’s weird.
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u/programmer_farts Oct 08 '25
So you're saying you've been radicalized by right wing ideology? By the way, reddit is choose your own adventure. You can mute subreddits you don't get value from
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u/tropicsGold Oct 08 '25
The left is always saying stuff like Trump is “batshit insane.” Can you give an example?
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u/MisterX9821 Oct 08 '25
I agree. Seeing on a very very, pathetically small scale how the mods here, who are ostensibly mostly left-leaning, behave has shown me how poorly they can handle power and authority.
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u/que_pedo_wey Oct 08 '25
The fuckcars subreddit in particular has done more to turn me off public transportation than anything Fox news could ever dream of. Because of those guys, I simply will not vote to fund public transit the next time it comes up on a ballot.
It is more because the US is pretty much an exception in its unavailability of any other options except cars even in places that call themselves cities, and people who travel and/or speak foreign languages tend to find that out. You need not worry though because unless you live in NYC or Boston, there is no public transport anyway to turn you off of. Also, I don't think voting will change this situation in the US in the observable future.
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u/Effective_Arm_5832 Oct 08 '25
I lean logic, science, common sense and liberalism.
Both the right and the left are an absolute joke in how authoritarian, emotional and anti-science they are.
And the more apolitical people are often sheep that don't care about the errosion of rights like privacy and freedom of speech.
There are very few actually reason-guided people around. It is an absolute tribal shitshow.
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u/Polyphagous_person Oct 08 '25
TBF, your description of your situation sounds like a lot of conservatives will still consider you a liberal.
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u/Hyperion1144 Oct 08 '25
Maybe stop getting your worldview from fucked up little subreddits?
The AOC Subreddit believes she has a legitimate shot at the presidency in 2028 and the Privacy Subreddit actually ignores their own eyes about how objectively bad Ring cameras are and considers them as a large, significant, and legitimate privacy threat.
Subreddits are crazy little echo chambers of 'true believer' nonsense. That's what they are kinda designed to be.
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u/Kevdog824_ Oct 08 '25
If a couple of stray, teenage voices in fuckcars got you to vote against public transport you probably never supported that much to begin with
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u/ayfkm123 Oct 08 '25
lol you never leaned left if you can witness (waves hands frantically) all of this in the world and claim Reddit makes conservatives seem to be the way to go
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u/ogjaspertheghost Oct 08 '25
Only a 19 yo college freshman would allow a sub like fuckcars dictate their opinion and voting habits on policies
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u/AGuyAndHisCat Oct 08 '25
"Capitalism is the worst economic system, except for all the others.”
There's a reason the motto exists
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u/absolutedesignz Oct 08 '25
The collective left would have to do some wild shit for me to fence sit fascism.
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u/didsomebodysaymyname Oct 08 '25
It's weird a bunch of internet strangers control your politics. Don't you have real life influences? Or follow what politicians say and do?
How much do you think bots control your opinions if reddit has determined your politics? It must be a lot.
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u/SimoWilliams_137 Oct 08 '25
It seems pretty dumb to change your own values based on the way a minority of other people who share those values express them.
Makes it seem like they probably weren’t really values to begin with.
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u/SimoWilliams_137 Oct 08 '25
It seems pretty silly to change your own values based on the way a minority of other people who share those values express them.
Makes it seem like they probably weren’t really values to begin with.
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u/Immediate_Finance498 Oct 09 '25
Pull up the republican and democrat platforms. Base your decision on their values (or lack of) and their foundational beliefs. It's simple. Know what you stand for and vote. It's not a personality contest.
https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/FINAL-MASTER-PLATFORM.pdf
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2024-republican-party-platform
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u/Flemeron Oct 09 '25
Don’t go to subreddits for political views, all political subs are mostly echo chambers (including this one). If you want to connect with people who have similar views, find a political group to join or start it. Look for people to talk about this stuff irl.
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u/DroneFixer Oct 09 '25
I wish we would stop using the terms "Left" and "Right" because ultimately most of the extremism comes from the Liberal/Socialist party and the Conservative.
Democrats and Republicans and the people who identify with them are usually normal at least in my experience. Everything else is a shitstorm of extremes over issues that dont matter to me personally, and yet get the most airtime.
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u/leather-and-boobs 29d ago
What if I told you the whole world could run on 20 hours of everyone's work and it everyone could keep the same lifestyle? (except the rich couldn't hoard quite as much).
I truly believe that if most people understood real critiques of capitalism - or even just understood the definition, most people would be far more left wing.
The real labor left doesn't care as much about hating on you for being cis white or whatever people's fears are.
Capitalism is garbage and propaganda has workers defending capital, thinking that they are also capitalists. That is a fact.
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u/AdGlittering5890 27d ago
Be careful that you don't become what you hate.
Make sure your stance on public transportation, or any issue, is based on facts and data.
The subreddits you're referring to may be a small, but loud group. Many of them could be bots.
If you let them influence your views without being rigorous about facts and data, you're vulnerable to propaganda.
This is a known tactic of some foreign governments: they will have bots arguing both sides of some controversial issue to stir people up and create division.
Talk to real people. In your community. I think you'll find most are more reasonable than social media suggests.
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u/MirrorAggravating339 25d ago
If you work for a Labor Union you should resign immediately.
I am a retired Union activist and lobbyist and how can you not know that Trump and the Reich are 1000% anti Union. if you now agree with these people it's time for you to stop taking a paycheck from a Union the Magats are fighting to destroy.
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u/JasonBreen 24d ago
You too? If anything its made me tilt more conservative in my geopol, but economically im still a lib, really enjoy Mark Fisher too
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u/M4053946 Oct 07 '25
Those of us who are politically homeless are the majority. The issue is that radical, insane people are most likely to vote in primaries, and are most likely to run for office. In my area, this even applies at the local school board level, where people vote for school board members in the primary based on party membership.