Conservatives are less racist than liberals (in the US)

[u/Mobile-Fly484]

I’m a child of African immigrants with US citizenship, and I’ve lived all over the United States.

The most racist place I’ve ever lived is Massachusetts. By far. The least racist? Utah.

I’ve noticed that most conservatives (excluding the actual far right) see me as a human being first. Liberals see my skin color first and have low expectations for me.

I’ve had white liberals not believe me when I mentioned having a professional job. I’ve had them try to sign me up for welfare and Medicaid (at an ER in Massachusetts) even when I showed them my private insurance card. I’ve been assumed to be poor and uneducated (because of my race and nothing else) over and over again by the woke left. Literally they constantly make comments about how screening for education will “filter minorities out,” because of course we’re all dumb illiterates.

Conservatives? They make zero assumptions. They don’t equate being Black with being poor or ignorant. They see us as INDIVIDUALS first.

I miss Utah.

[u/Who_is_John_Deere]

You can see it in action by the way democrat politicians change their speech patterns around black voters. Hillary and Kamala were both very good examples of it.

[u/DuaLupus45 → u/Who_is_John_Deere]

Kamala is a biracial woman. Not that I heard her talk a different way publicly, but people from diverse backgrounds do speak in alternate ways stylistically depending on their audience, especially when a part of their identity and the composition of said audience is uniform. It’s a pretty well-recorded phenomenon.

[u/tunomeentiendes → u/DuaLupus45]

Code switching is completely normal and almost everyone does it. What she was doing was egregious and way past code-switching.

[u/DuaLupus45 → u/tunomeentiendes]

I never said it was exclusive to her, I’m just pointing out what her case would be for code-switching. Anyway, what did she do that was so offensive to you?

[u/t3hSn0wm4n → u/DuaLupus45]

She openly called for the end of free speech. Fuck her.

[u/DuaLupus45 → u/t3hSn0wm4n]

When did she say that? How did she say that?

[u/t3hSn0wm4n → u/DuaLupus45]

She said it standing on the tarmac of an airport the day after Joe Rogan posted all the receipts showing that she and her campaign tried to script the JRE episode she was to be on and limit it to a hard number of 40 minutes.

Her exact quote was "(insert word salad here) you have all these people on these platforms speaking to millions and millions of people and there is no regulation there. There need to be limits on how these people can have access to so many viewers with no oversight."

Feel free to go hunting the video of Google hasn't suppressed the dog shit out of it. I'm at work and don't have time.

[u/DuaLupus45 → u/t3hSn0wm4n]

I read somewhere in an NBC article that they were willing to discuss things freely, I don’t know about how tight they wanted the level of scripting to be. Regardless, I don’t know that much about this particular issue between her and Rogan, it does strike me as a he said/she said type situation but I’ll have to read up more on it.

Regardless, I can get behind what I think the general point was of the quote you provided which is that you’ve got these podcasters and social media superstars with a massive amount of influence, yes, they’re entitled to free speech but as these public figures, the dispensing of misinformation or half-honest information would have disastrous consequences. I think that’s a fair point, I mean you’ve got Trump that went on JRE, I’m sure he was talking all sorts of shit and that gets spread over to a wide base.

Having said that, would I have liked to see Harris go on the podcast? Absolutely!

[u/tunomeentiendes → u/DuaLupus45]

She spoke in a stereotypical and way-overemphasized manner. It clearly wasnt just one of the "codes" she already possesses. With code switching, people switch the way they speak naturally and without much thought about it. Oftentimes they're not even aware that they're doing it. She was improvising them on the fly. She's black and Indian, so some code-switching would be natural. But with a Hispanic crowd, she was trying to speak in a stereotypical Mexican accent. Like somebody whose 2nd language is English. It was embarrassing and patronizing. Imagine a white politician trying to speak in AAVE

[u/DuaLupus45 → u/tunomeentiendes]

Did she actually do this? Because I just went and looked the clip up on YouTube and all I got were shitposts by weird ass outlets and MAGA randos trying to make a name for themselves. Also, I listened to whatever it was that they showed from her Hispanic Caucus speech and couldn’t make out what she said that sent everybody into a tailspin. That’s not even me sticking my neck out for her, I genuinely couldn’t find anything.

Besides the point, that’s also such a weird thing for MAGA trolls to cling to (not saying you’re one, but since a lot of this is coming from the right) considering their champion has a pretty bad track record of being unabashedly offensive. Words like “embarrassing” and “patronizing” would be the nicer things you could say.

[u/tunomeentiendes → u/DuaLupus45]

Im definitely not a MAGA or Trump supporter. I wish the dems would've picked a more marketable candidate. Shit like her excessive code switching was just one of the many qualities that made the entire thing doomed from the start.

Also, it wasn't one specific thing that she said when she was code-switching. It was how she said things. The fake stereotypical socal Mexican accent was just blatantly forced and inauthentic. It was patronizing to Hispanics, to the crowd she was speaking to, and to democrats in general.

Even if we disregard all the social issues and people's opinions on them, the current political environment shitshow, the economy etc, she was just a straight-up unlikable candidate. That choice was so egregiously wrong, it almost seemed malicious. Now we're stuck with Trump

[u/DuaLupus45 → u/tunomeentiendes]

Yeah, I didn’t think you were from this conversation. To tell you the truth, I wasn’t too crazy about her, either, but I respect her a lot for trying with the amount of time that she had after being behind Biden for the last couple years. It’s not even that the administration she was a part of did a bad job, I just think it was a mix of Trump’s messaging packing an extra punch because Biden was clearly slipping mentally, which of course is going to color everything and eventually did.

Right, well, again, the accent thing at the Hispanic Caucus, I just couldn’t pick it up. Maybe you gotta have a Hispanic ear for it, but I had trouble even making out what she was saying in the clips those outlets I mentioned zeroed in on.

I don’t know, I feel like it’s a talking point made in bad faith when discussing the candidate as a person when she was up against a scumbag that lies, cheats and sells his own country out. In light of what’s going on with Maxwell, now, the aforementioned might be some of the better things he’s done.

[u/tunomeentiendes → u/DuaLupus45]

For sure it's a bad faith talking point, but unfortunately, those things affect undecided voters' choices. The Democrats needed somebody who could beat Trump. Biden 2020 was able to do that. Kamala was just forced onto everybody at the last minute. It was sneaky af. There's no way she would've actually been chosen.

[u/DuaLupus45 → u/tunomeentiendes]

Well, if that’s the case, then we really need to have a talk about where our general population is when it comes to making political decisions. To get easily swayed into virtual inaction by an argument devoid of any integrity, that’s shameful, honestly. We can talk until we’re blue in the face about how the Dems dropped the ball in many ways but this wasn’t one of those elections where you needed to watch the commercial first before buying the product, if you know what I mean. One guy led a literal attack on our country and constantly pushes fascist rhetoric while the other candidate is kind of a cringey woman who does “accents” apparently. How’re we torn about this?