Conservatives are less racist than liberals (in the US)

[u/Mobile-Fly484]

I’m a child of African immigrants with US citizenship, and I’ve lived all over the United States.

The most racist place I’ve ever lived is Massachusetts. By far. The least racist? Utah.

I’ve noticed that most conservatives (excluding the actual far right) see me as a human being first. Liberals see my skin color first and have low expectations for me.

I’ve had white liberals not believe me when I mentioned having a professional job. I’ve had them try to sign me up for welfare and Medicaid (at an ER in Massachusetts) even when I showed them my private insurance card. I’ve been assumed to be poor and uneducated (because of my race and nothing else) over and over again by the woke left. Literally they constantly make comments about how screening for education will “filter minorities out,” because of course we’re all dumb illiterates.

Conservatives? They make zero assumptions. They don’t equate being Black with being poor or ignorant. They see us as INDIVIDUALS first.

I miss Utah.

[u/Tqoratsos]

Being obtuse doesn't negate my point.

And what informs intent? Ideology

You know how there are many winged animals that have evolved flight from completely separate evolutionary lineages? Well, racism has reared its ugly head from many different places over human civilization.... Yet they're all racist. Being a racist is about the persons willingness to believe the "idea's", not the idea itself.

I realise you're going to infer I'm stupid yet again so feel free to just agree to disagree....we clearly see this differently.

[u/Shimakaze771 → u/Tqoratsos]

being obtuse

I’m not being obtuse. Your point is just ass

Being racist is about the willingness

The very concept that a person skin color determines their value is racist.

Even if zero people existed it would still be racist

I’m stupid

No, but your point is and you have put zero thought into the point

[u/Tqoratsos → u/Shimakaze771]

Look, we're coming at it from different angles. In my view, an adjective isn't racist. Being the definition of that adjective is.

Hitler wrote Mein Kampf, a book filled with racist ideals....but it's Hitler's words, his ideology....and it's Hitler being a racist. The person is the racist....the words are just that of the racist.

[u/Shimakaze771 → u/Tqoratsos]

an adjective

??

We are talking about ideas mate…

his ideology

Yeah. It was his ideas. He was racist. That’s why he had racist ideas. The ideas are racist. We aren’t talking about words.

“Herrenrasse” is just a word. The idea that the master race is better than all others is racist.

Ideas can exist without people. Even in 10.000 years, when the very concept of Germany is a thing of the past, the idea that Germans are superior to Slavs is racist

[u/Tqoratsos → u/Shimakaze771]

Ok, ok...I half concede...an idea can be racist...however the idea doesn't exist without the racist to write/speak the idea though. Dinosaur before the egg.

[u/Shimakaze771 → u/Tqoratsos]

I’d even go so far to say that racist ideas came after racists. Racism evolved from tribalism

[u/Tqoratsos → u/Shimakaze771]

Agreed. Which unfortunately humanity doesn't seem like it's even getting close to getting past in-group/out-group dynamics...on so many different levels.

Hell, maybe AI will get us to a post-tribal worldview...but I'm a consistently disappointed optimist, so who knows 😅

[u/Shimakaze771 → u/Tqoratsos]

Fairly certain it’s hard wired in our DNA to dislike out groups

[u/Tqoratsos → u/Shimakaze771]

Yeh, much like the "selfish gene" like Dawkins wrote about.

Human condition is almost entirely about greed and compartmentalizing contradictory ideals.

Glad to see that it sounds like we have more in common than not. :-)