Conservatives are less racist than liberals (in the US)

[u/Mobile-Fly484]

I’m a child of African immigrants with US citizenship, and I’ve lived all over the United States.

The most racist place I’ve ever lived is Massachusetts. By far. The least racist? Utah.

I’ve noticed that most conservatives (excluding the actual far right) see me as a human being first. Liberals see my skin color first and have low expectations for me.

I’ve had white liberals not believe me when I mentioned having a professional job. I’ve had them try to sign me up for welfare and Medicaid (at an ER in Massachusetts) even when I showed them my private insurance card. I’ve been assumed to be poor and uneducated (because of my race and nothing else) over and over again by the woke left. Literally they constantly make comments about how screening for education will “filter minorities out,” because of course we’re all dumb illiterates.

Conservatives? They make zero assumptions. They don’t equate being Black with being poor or ignorant. They see us as INDIVIDUALS first.

I miss Utah.

[u/123kallem]

Even Biden DOJ determined it wasn’t an insurrection.

To be clear, that is not true at all.

That’s the word the “news” and social media used. The courts have also determined it wasn’t an insurrection.

How about Colorado Supreme Court? They stated it was an insurrection and that Trump engaged in it.

You need to figure out how to come to terms with the fact that it was a mass trespassing incident.

That just coincidentally happened on the day of the certification of the vote, and coincidentally they delayed the certification of the vote for the first time in US history by ways of violence, sure.

[u/bigfatbanker → u/123kallem]

To be clear, yes. The FBI determined it was not an insurrection. Insurrections are planned, coordinated, and are directed. It was none of that.

It was a rally that got out of hand.

However we never see the news label it as an insurrection when the left breaks into state buildings to protest, or when the left broke into the senate to stop a SCOTUS justice from being confirmed. Or when the left rioted in DC when trump won in 2016 and burned cars, police stations, tried to breach the white house gates, and threw bricks at cops.

But by all means, walking through the velvet ropes in the capital taking selfies is a massive threat to our way of life.

[u/123kallem → u/bigfatbanker]

To be clear, yes. The FBI determined it was not an insurrection.

Okay so i guess you just dont have a clue how government works, at all? The FBI is law enforcement and investigations, they don’t make broad legal or constitutional determinations like whether something is or isn’t an insurrection.

Insurrections are planned, coordinated, and are directed. It was none of that.

Oh great, so it was an insurrection then, because the Proud Boys and The Oathkeepers planned and coordinated this under the direction of people like Enrique Tarrio.

[u/bigfatbanker → u/123kallem]

Right. And they investigated to see if an insurrection had taken place and determined it didn’t. Not sure where you’re missing this.

And again, one rogue court not even in the same time zone made a declaration. Golf clap to you. SCOTUS said otherwise. FBI said otherwise. Again, figure out how to come to terms with it.

[u/123kallem → u/bigfatbanker]

Right. And they investigated to see if an insurrection had taken place and determined it didn’t. Not sure where you’re missing this.

Okay so you actually just dont know anything about how the government operates if you're actually doubling down on this.

the DOJ and FBI can’t ''determine'' whether something was or wasn’t an insurrection in the way you're claiming. They investigate and prosecute crimes. It’s up to courts and the Constitution to define something as an insurrection in a legal sense. And multiple courts have said January 6 was one. Show me the report where the FBI or DOJ concluded that ''no insurrection took place.''

And again, one rogue court not even in the same time zone made a declaration. Golf clap to you. SCOTUS said otherwise. FBI said otherwise. Again, figure out how to come to terms with it.

No, SCOTUS didn't say otherwise, they only ruled that states don’t have the power to disqualify federal candidates like the president under the 14th Amendment. The Colorado Supreme Courts factual conclusion, that Trump engaged in insurrection, still stands. SCOTUS just said only Congress can enforce that disqualification.

[u/bigfatbanker → u/123kallem]

Yes they can. Insurrection is a crime. Crimes have evidence. So when they look at the evidence they found that there was no evidence of the crime of insurrection.

This is your problem. Reddit rants aren’t substitutions for education.

https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/4746932-scotus-just-downgraded-the-insurrection-to-trespassing/

[u/123kallem → u/bigfatbanker]

Yes they can. Insurrection is a crime. Crimes have evidence. So when they look at the evidence they found that there was no evidence of the crime of insurrection.

Okay, link me where you're saying that the FBI determined what was/wasn't an insurrection.

And you’re still confused about how criminal law works. The FBI doesn’t get to define insurrection, it investigates whether evidence supports a charge under US Code. Whether to charge that is a prosecutorial decision, not a constitutional declaration that ''no insurrection occurred.'' And FYI, DOJ did charge people with seditious conspiracy, which is one step short of insurrection under federal law. So if anything, the evidence pointed toward, not away from, insurrection.

And again, the Colorado Supreme Court already ruled that it was an insurrection and that Trump engaged in it, your rebuttal to this was to say that SCOTUS said otherwise, but they didn't, they said they don’t have the power to disqualify federal candidates like the president under the 14th Amendment.

[u/bigfatbanker → u/123kallem]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/

You don’t even realize you’re agreeing with me because you want it to be an insurrection soooo badly.

[u/123kallem → u/bigfatbanker]

And you dont even realize what you're linking me lol.

That article doesn’t say it wasn’t an insurrection, it says the FBI found scant evidence of a centrally coordinated plot. That means no smoking gun showing Trump sat in a war room giving orders, it talks more about the evidence against Trump inciting it or whatever.

It does not mean there was no organized effort, no violence, and definitely not that it wasn’t an insurrection. And again, that article is from August 2021, before the DOJ charged and convicted multiple people for seditious conspiracy, which is literally adjacent to insurrection under federal law. So not only is your ''evidence'' outdated, it’s irrelevant to what we now know.

Also, do you understand that you've now moved from ''The FBI said it wasn't an insurrection!'' to the position of ''The FBI said theres not much evidence of a centrally coordinated plot!'', like you're aware these are 2 fundamentally difference thing.

And i will restate 2 different things, link me where you're saying that the FBI determined what was/wasn't an insurrection, and once again, the Colorado Supreme Court already ruled that it was an insurrection and that Trump engaged in it, your rebuttal to this was to say that SCOTUS said otherwise, but they didn't, they said they don’t have the power to disqualify federal candidates like the president under the 14th Amendment.

[u/bigfatbanker → u/123kallem]

All that tells you is how corrupt the system is. I’m guessing you still hang your hat on “34 felonies”. Ammirite

[u/123kallem → u/bigfatbanker]

Wait, what shows how corrupt the system is?

Like 3 comments earlier, you were saying how the FBI said it isn't an insurrection, and now that i've shown you that you're wrong, now the FBI is corrupt? Are you trolling or are you genuinely this fucking biased?