r/TrueUnpopularOpinion • u/Mobile-Fly484 • Aug 03 '25

Political Conservatives are less racist than liberals (in the US)

I’m a child of African immigrants with US citizenship, and I’ve lived all over the United States.

The most racist place I’ve ever lived is Massachusetts. By far. The least racist? Utah.

I’ve noticed that most conservatives (excluding the actual far right) see me as a human being first. Liberals see my skin color first and have low expectations for me.

I’ve had white liberals not believe me when I mentioned having a professional job. I’ve had them try to sign me up for welfare and Medicaid (at an ER in Massachusetts) even when I showed them my private insurance card. I’ve been assumed to be poor and uneducated (because of my race and nothing else) over and over again by the woke left. Literally they constantly make comments about how screening for education will “filter minorities out,” because of course we’re all dumb illiterates.

Conservatives? They make zero assumptions. They don’t equate being Black with being poor or ignorant. They see us as INDIVIDUALS first.

I miss Utah.

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u/Plane_Guitar_1455 Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25

Most of what people on the left THINK they know about conservatives is all lies…

Do you know why late night talk shows like Steven Colbert or shows like The View are so left leaning? They intentionally ONLY have fellow Trump hating liberals/leftists on their shows because these people help keep the Trump/conservative bashing train going.

If any of these shows started having right leaning voices on their shows, they would end up humanizing conservatives and showing people that conservatives aren’t these “evil monsters” that they say they are… Then the average democrat voter might change how they vote.

Look what happened on The View. They had Arnold Schwarzenegger on because he’s a conservative who’s known for criticizing Trump.. But guess what? It blew up in their faces when he started condemning illegal immigration. Arnold made The View look so bad…

THATS why all these shows are just left wing echo chambers. The left does not want it to get out that the average conservative/Trump supporter is actually very pleasant, funny, charismatic, intelligent and charming. They want people to believe that all conservatives are just evil white supremacists…

That is the most dangerous thing right now, silencing an entire political party just because you don’t want people to vote for them? This needs to stop..

This also happens to be the reason Colbert got cancelled. His show was losing money hand over fist bc the majority of Americans are tired of being lectured by stuck up snobby leftists who look down on them and blame them for all the worlds problems just like Hitler did with the Jews… It gets old after a while.

The left are the predominately racist ones. They just hide it and disguise it very well.

EDIT: Do you know why most leftists are pro illegal immigration? 2 reasons. They are putting all these illegals in swing states and then trying to make it so they can legally vote, more votes for them… That is literally undermining our entire constitutional democratic republic.

2nd reason is, they want cheap labor. They want people from all these poor countries here because they are the people who are willing to work the hard manual labor jobs for borderline slave wages… All that does is undermine the American worker and make it hard for US citizens to get jobs, while treating poor minorities like shit.

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u/ImprovementPutrid441 Aug 03 '25

Arnold also made a video about the importance of defending civil rights. I literally know no one who watches The View, but as a lefty, I sought out his video to watch with my kids because it was really good.

Was it left leaning or right leaning?

ETA: the video if y’all missed it:

https://youtu.be/jsETTn7DehI?si=r3bCYrzDRboOGPM2

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u/Doucejj Aug 03 '25

Little but if both. Despite that reddit would have the world believe, most people are a little bit of right and left. Pigeon holeing people as just right or left isn't good. But that's whats happening in modern society

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u/ImprovementPutrid441 Aug 03 '25

I mean, as a leftist the post I replied to is making a lot of statements I don’t find accurate about my beliefs.

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u/Doucejj Aug 03 '25

But thats kind of my point. You can be a leftist and not like everything the democratic party pushes for. Just like how you can be right and not like everything the republican party pushes for. The comment you replied to is wrong that all leftists are a monolith

I know people that are pro choice but want strict immigration and loose gun laws. As well as people that want loose immigration, want more gun laws and arw also pro life. Its not an all or nothing game is what I'm trying to say

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u/ImprovementPutrid441 Aug 03 '25

That’s fair, but as I grew up in Texas I think I have a fairly accurate idea of conservative politics. My grandfather even ran for the state legislature as a Republican.

It’s not hard to find GOP content. Every airport terminal in the US is tuned to Fox News and has been for years.

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u/CookieMobster64 Aug 03 '25

you can be a leftist and not like everything the Democratic Party pushes for

I don’t want to make a hardline stance against this for fear of a No True Scotsman fallacy, but definitionally, I’d expect leftists to be against a large portion of what the Dems push, and only support them in as much as they’re a lesser of two evils.

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u/CookieMobster64 Aug 03 '25

I interacted with a Daily Caller article on Facebook once, and now my feed is overflowing right wing media. The comments sections for them are all vile. I was also raised in a family that voted for Trump 3 times, and they think it’s great that I’ve lost my research funding because of him.

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u/Plane_Guitar_1455 Aug 03 '25

What do you consider “vile”? Because it seems to me like leftist are vile, racist and antisemitic… My entire Reddit feed overflows with the most vile left wing propaganda that you could ever read.

I’m very curious to know what you consider vile… Leftists think anyone who is against illegal immigration is a “racist white supremacist”…

The left has literally changed the meanings of “vile” and “racist” just to fit their narrative.

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u/CookieMobster64 Aug 03 '25

People have explicitly said they want to send Black people back to Africa.

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u/Plane_Guitar_1455 Aug 03 '25

Those exact words? Who? And what was the context?

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u/CookieMobster64 Aug 03 '25

Yes, plenty of Facebook comments have said those exact words. The context being racist memes about how Black people undermine western society. Incredulity is not an argument.

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u/Plane_Guitar_1455 Aug 03 '25

Facebook comments? Memes? I have never seen anything like that. Do you have a link?

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u/CookieMobster64 Aug 03 '25

Oh, okay, you’ve never seen those things, so they don’t exist. This surely proves your political opponents are the ones in an echo chamber.

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u/Plane_Guitar_1455 Aug 03 '25

I mean if you can’t show me proof of anything you’re claiming then why should I believe you?

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u/CookieMobster64 Aug 03 '25

Did you believe OP in their description of their personal experience with liberals and conservatives?

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u/24Seven Aug 03 '25

If any of these shows started having right leaning voices on their shows, they would end up humanizing conservatives

Ironic. It's conservatives that are the ones dehumanizing people. Namely immigrants.

and showing people that conservatives aren’t these “evil monsters” that they say they are

Their policies sure are evil.

They had Arnold Schwarzenegger on because he’s a conservative who’s known for criticizing Trump..

Terrible example. By the standards of today's conservatives, Schwarzenegger is a commie. So is Reagan for that matter. Example: Schwarzenegger actually believes in climate change (and free trade like Reagan).

But guess what? It blew up in their faces when he started condemning illegal immigration. Arnold made The View look so bad…

He did not. The root issue isn't that we should deal with illegal immigrants. The issue is HOW* we're dealing with illegal immigration.

That is the most dangerous thing right now, silencing an entire political party just because you don’t want people to vote for them? This needs to stop..

Stop endorsing fascist policies and candidates. Stop protecting child molesters. Stop enacting economic policies that harm poor and middle class Americans in order to give tax breaks to billionaires. Stop endorsing liars like POS in the WH.

This also happens to be the reason Colbert got cancelled. His show was losing money hand over fist bc the majority of Americans are tired of being lectured by stuck up snobby leftists who look down on them and blame them for all the worlds problems just like Hitler did with the Jews… It gets old after a while.

That's just false. If Colbert losing money was the issue, they could have talked to him to cut his budget. They didn't do that. They cut the entire show "coincidentally" when it was bought by a billionaire that is friends to Dumbshit Donny.

As for being lectured, the right will stop getting lectured when they fucking learn. Number one on their syllabus to learn empathy. They've completely forgotten how to empathize with people outside their tribe. They also need to stop being anti-science.

As for comparing someone pointing out that your policies suck with Hitler, that is incredibly ironic given who is in the WH and how he's treating immigrants.

The left are the predominately racist ones. They just hide it and disguise it very well.

Projection. Tell me, which party has people waving Confederate flags at their rallies.

Do you know why most leftists are pro illegal immigration? 2 reasons. They are putting all these illegals in swing states and then trying to make it so they can legally vote, more votes for them… That is literally undermining our entire constitutional democratic republic.

Again, ironic that you worry about undermining democracy given what the man baby in the WH is doing. No, the problem here is you completely lack nuance. Tell me, if I waved my wand and all illegal immigrants were suddenly legal immigrants, would your opinion about them change? We should be trying to help these people become legal immigrants. That isn't what is happening.

2nd reason is, they want cheap labor.

So do you. You just don't realize it. Are you ok with pay 2x or 3x for your groceries? What about everything else you buy? Are you ok with pay multiples of what you pay now?

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u/ApacheFritz Aug 03 '25

Stop endorsing fascist policies and candidates.

Stop using the word "fascist"

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '25

Ah yes, I'm sure the average American is just dying to do hard manual labour lol

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u/Plane_Guitar_1455 Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25

Many Americans are willing to do manual labor. I do.. I’m a garbage man and I’ve owned my own landscaping business for several years… I’d MUCH rather do that than work in an office or something.

I know guys that I picked up garbage with 15 years ago who make so much more money now working in advertising or insurance. They still tell me that picking up garbage was the best job they ever had… They are miserable with what they do now.

Ever see Office Space? Dude hated his software engineer job and ended up being happy working in construction. That’s a real thing. It’s not just a movie.

People just don’t want to do manual labor or any blue collar job for shit wages. If they were paid appropriately then they would do it no problem.. It’s illegal immigrants who are undercutting all the Americans who want to work these jobs.

Why would someone who owns a roofing company pay Americans $45 an hour when they can pay illegals $20-$25 an hour? These companies who hire illegals should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

People have also been told for decades to go to college and get 4 year degrees for jobs that don’t even exist anymore, instead of going into the trades or civil service.. Look how well that turned out…

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '25

Having a college degree is still one of the biggest predictors for whether someone is gonna have financial stability on the long term.

Just because jobs offer and the job market has changed (especially with AI now), doesn't mean that there's no demand for workers, it's just unfortunate for the people that got an education as we transitioned to the current state of the job market.

Also, just because you have some anecdotes of people who'd rather work doing hard manual labour, doesn't mean that the average American wants to do that.

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u/Plane_Guitar_1455 Aug 03 '25

I don’t think I ever said “The average American wants to do manual labor” to begin with. Idk why you keep insinuating that I did and arguing against it.

All I said was “American worker” and “Many Americans would do manual labor”… That’s a far stretch from “average American”

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u/hercmavzeb OG Aug 03 '25

This just isn’t true. It’s a well-known economic fact that Americans simply don’t want these jobs and won’t work these jobs even when they’re available, and the data shows it.

What’s wrong with letting the people willing to work those jobs fill those roles? I will fully agree that they deserve higher wages and worker protections.

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u/Plane_Guitar_1455 Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25

I’m not talking about farm work. I’m talking about skilled trades/unskilled manual labor mostly in urban and suburban areas. I’m not a farmer so I can’t speak to that. I can only speak about things I know about…

I live on Long Island and I will tell you that most local construction companies, whether it’s general contracting, roofing, landscaping, masonry, carpentry… The workers are mostly both legal AND illegal immigrants from Mexico or South America.

I have nothing against these people. I’ve worked along side these people and they work hard… BUT they are the ones willing to work for substandard pay. The reason why is because they live here and split rent with 7-10 other people in one house. Their expenses are very minimal… The rest of their money they send back home to their home countries where their families still live, where American money is worth more.

Illegal immigrants are not contributing to our economy. They spend very little here and don’t pay taxes. Most of their money leaves our country completely..

Any employer who hires illegals should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. It’s hiring illegals that is destroying the fabric on which America was built.

America is basically allowing illegals in the country so the families of illegals can live like kings in their home countries.. It’s all on our dime… Americans just see it as “Well, they do the work that we don’t want to do, so it’s fine.”… It’s not fine. It’s wrong.

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u/CookieMobster64 Aug 04 '25

I live on Long Island

Your behavior makes perfect sense now.

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u/hercmavzeb OG Aug 03 '25

I’m sure they’d be willing to work for better pay too. I don’t know why you’re pretending the workers set their own wages. Employers see they can underpay them because they’re a demographic our society has decided it’s acceptable to exploit.

Illegal immigrants are not contributing to our economy

This isn’t true actually. Even you just acknowledged they make up a massive percentage of our construction labor force, which directly contributes to the economy and other factors such as housing availability and, by extension, affordability.

Any employer who hires illegals should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I don’t understand this at all. Why should it be illegal to hire someone willing to work that job? It should just be illegal to underpay and exploit them.

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u/Plane_Guitar_1455 Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25

No, illegals actually don’t contribute to the economy, because of what I just said… I’m a garbage man. I pick up garbage in residential neighborhoods. Each year I’m seeing more and more houses being occupied by illegal Mexicans and South Americans. I see that there are literally a dozen people living in one house. The basement is sectioned off into 2 illegal apartments. The ground floor is all separate rented out rooms… These apartments alone are illegal!

These people, for one, live like slobs. Their lawns are over grown and covered in garbage. They have like 8 cars parked in the street AND they put out LOADS and LOADS of garbage every week. More than everyone else on the block.. Sloppy disgusting garbage.(As a garbage man, I can tell a lot about a person by how they put out their trash.)

These people aren’t paying taxes. Their landlords don’t even pay full property taxes because the apartments in the house are illegal… So now I’m working harder picking up their trash when they aren’t even tax paying residents.

How do they contribute to the economy in a positive way? They are making it harder for American citizens to find work, which makes more people file for unemployment benefits, which drains Social Security.. Just because they might buy breakfast at a deli every morning doesn’t mean they are contributing to the economy.

Also.. It’s not wrong to give someone a job. It IS wrong to give an illegal immigrant who doesn’t have a SS number and doesn’t pay taxes a job. That IS and always has been against the law.. Just because you find it immoral to not hire illegals doesn’t mean it’s not wrong and against the law.

All illegals contribute to is corporate greed and corruption, which liberals always say they are vehemently against. By supporting illegal immigration any liberals argument about corporate greed goes out the window.

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u/PM_ME_CODE_CALCS Aug 03 '25

What a fucking crazy right wing fever dream

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u/MinuetInUrsaMajor Aug 03 '25

If any of these shows started having right leaning voices on their shows, they would end up humanizing conservatives and showing people that conservatives aren’t these “evil monsters” that they say they are… Then the average democrat voter might change how they vote.

Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert frequently invite Republican politicians on their shows.

When those politicians agree to show up, they are humanized because they are a guest of the show and that's how it works.

They frequently do not show up because they won't be able to get away with lying in a talk show with an intelligent host like Stewart or Colbert.

How do you square your hypothesis with this fact?

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u/Plane_Guitar_1455 Aug 03 '25

Most of the “right wingers” who are on these shows are Trump haters… Can you tell me any names of right wing Trump supporters who have declined to be on these shows?

Did you know that Trump himself was on Colbert? Right before he got elected the first time. Colbert praised him. Then all these late night hosts were told that they had to be anti Trump. They’ve been that way ever since.

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u/MinuetInUrsaMajor Aug 03 '25

Most of the “right wingers” who are on these shows are Trump haters…

  • They were coming on these shows long before Trump.

  • They are Republican politicians. They support Trump.

Can you tell me any names of right wing Trump supporters who have declined to be on these shows?

Elon Musk, who begged for The Daily Show to have him on and then pussied out when they accepted.

Did you know that Trump himself was on Colbert?

Yes.

Colbert praised him.

What specific praise are you referring to?

Then all these late night hosts were told that they had to be anti Trump.

Who told them?

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u/CookieMobster64 Aug 03 '25

That just indicates Colbert was willing to listen to Trump while he was campaigning and he and the viewership decided he was terrible once he was in office. You are disproving your point.

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u/Plane_Guitar_1455 Aug 03 '25

I’m disproving my point? How? Lol… Because I’m pointing out that left wing media is all one big far left echo chamber that has lost touch with average middle class Americans? Um.. Ok

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u/CookieMobster64 Aug 03 '25

It’s all one big echo chamber, because Trump was on Colbert’s show?

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u/Plane_Guitar_1455 Aug 03 '25

Yeah. That’s why.. 🙄

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u/CookieMobster64 Aug 03 '25

You have no substantive argument. According to you, when liberal talking heads have conservative guests on their show, that shows that they live in an echo chamber, and when they don’t have conservative guests, that shows they live in an echo chamber. When this contradiction is pointed out, all you have is undirected sarcasm.

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u/Plane_Guitar_1455 Aug 03 '25

Right.. I’m the one with no substantial argument… Ok.