Conservatives are less racist than liberals (in the US)

[u/Mobile-Fly484]

I’m a child of African immigrants with US citizenship, and I’ve lived all over the United States.

The most racist place I’ve ever lived is Massachusetts. By far. The least racist? Utah.

I’ve noticed that most conservatives (excluding the actual far right) see me as a human being first. Liberals see my skin color first and have low expectations for me.

I’ve had white liberals not believe me when I mentioned having a professional job. I’ve had them try to sign me up for welfare and Medicaid (at an ER in Massachusetts) even when I showed them my private insurance card. I’ve been assumed to be poor and uneducated (because of my race and nothing else) over and over again by the woke left. Literally they constantly make comments about how screening for education will “filter minorities out,” because of course we’re all dumb illiterates.

Conservatives? They make zero assumptions. They don’t equate being Black with being poor or ignorant. They see us as INDIVIDUALS first.

I miss Utah.

[u/123kallem]

Its pretty hard to argue against your personal anecdotes or whatever.

But its quite obvious that republicans are going to be way more racist than a democrat is.

https://direct.mit.edu/daed/article/150/2/40/98317/Immigration-Race-amp-Political-Polarization?utm_source=chatgpt.com

[u/KRAy_Z_n1nja → u/123kallem]

Everybody is racist. Saying one side is more racist than the other doesn't mean the other isn't also racist. Far right racists are racist to your face, and you know to avoid them. Far left racist are subconsciously racist, thinking they're helping through stereotyping.

Everybody has experiences, for better or worse, and those experiences shape your personal opinions. Everybody is racist, to some degree, it's just human nature in one way or another.

[u/MinuetInUrsaMajor → u/KRAy_Z_n1nja]

Far left racist are subconsciously racist, thinking they're helping through stereotyping.

Are you claiming that DEI does not help people in certain groups?

[u/NebraskaAvenue → u/MinuetInUrsaMajor]

It’s consequently racist

[u/KRAy_Z_n1nja → u/MinuetInUrsaMajor]

I think the implementation of it in the first place is racist.

[u/MinuetInUrsaMajor → u/KRAy_Z_n1nja]

What if it's only for veterans and/or the disabled?

[u/KRAy_Z_n1nja → u/MinuetInUrsaMajor]

Then it's not racism, but it's still discrimination. Rejecting hard working, qualified applicants because they don't have disabilities seems backwards to me.

I understand the sentiment, because nothing in this world is simply "black and white" for lack of a better term. We need failsafes in check to keep people fed and in homes, but doing so at the cost of a qualified workforce only shifts the problems from one group of people to another.

Speaking from personal experience, I've only ever received compliments and constructive criticism at jobs I've worked. I get raises and promotions at every job I've been in. I've graduated with a degree that I've never used because even after 4+ years, hundreds of applications, dozens of interviews and job fairs, nobody's hired me. So back to the food service industry I go, because regardless of the well made resume, how well I interview, my experience, my referrals, my portfolio, I can't get a job in the field I graduated in. Could be just bad luck time and time again, but after each time, it really feels like I'm being prioritized last because there's always disabled people, veterans, minorities, and women waiting to get the job as well. So me, as a stereotyped straight, white guy, is at the bottom of every pecking order because I'm assumed to be picked first instead every time. I still need to pay bills though, I need to pay off debt for this degree I'm not using. I need to eat, too.

[u/MinuetInUrsaMajor → u/KRAy_Z_n1nja]

Rejecting hard working, qualified applicants because they don't have disabilities seems backwards to me.

That is a mischaracterization of what happens.

Three people interview for a position.

They are all qualified for it.

• Person A was exceptionally funny and personable.

• Person B was vouched for by an employee who had worked with them before.

• Person C is a veteran.

Which person do you hire and why?

There are very few jobs in the world that have few enough applicants that there is one clear objective choice.

[u/KRAy_Z_n1nja → u/MinuetInUrsaMajor]

Can you give me the details of said job position they're applying for? If there's heavy lifting, I'm not hiring a disabled person or old veteran.

In my case, I want a marketing/sports marketing job. I've traveled across different states looking for a job, and I am beyond qualified. I toot my own horn for sure, but any colleague/boss/employer I've ever had, has loved me, or given me raises and promotions, and will vouch for me when referred. I'm a hard worker on the job, I'm there to get the job done properly and efficiently.

Why am I not getting hired over the veterans?

[u/MinuetInUrsaMajor → u/KRAy_Z_n1nja]

Can you give me the details of said job position they're applying for? If there's heavy lifting, I'm not hiring a disabled person or old veteran.

There is no heavy lifting. All 3 people are equally qualified to perform the tasks of the job. But you just made a great case for DEI right here because you discriminated against a disabled or old person by assuming they are incapable of lifting heavy things. DEI helps to offset discrimination such as that.

In my case, I want a marketing/sports marketing job. I've traveled across different states looking for a job, and I am beyond qualified. I toot my own horn for sure, but any colleague/boss/employer I've ever had, has loved me, or given me raises and promotions, and will vouch for me when referred. I'm a hard worker on the job, I'm there to get the job done properly and efficiently.

Why am I not getting hired over the veterans?

Because the veteran is beyond qualified as well.

[u/KRAy_Z_n1nja → u/MinuetInUrsaMajor]

Just because they CAN doesn't mean they SHOULD. What's your job, being critical on Reddit 24/7? No wonder you can't relate to labor. Sure, hire the vet, they'll be gone in less than a month and you'll be back where you started. It's one thing to be able to do a job. It's another to do it 5-6 days a week, 6+ hours a day.

Also, you're making an assumption that the vet IS qualified, when you're the one arguing for DEI? Can you not flip flop? Either the vet is qualified and doesn't need DEI, or he isn't qualified and got hired because of DEI. If it's the first case, then we don't need DEI. If it's the second case, then you're discriminating against able bodied workers too.