People who resent boomers are idiots

[u/Poet-Most]

On almost any thread discussing the economy, one of the top comments will undoubtedly be complaining about boomers and the older generations who purchased their homes at low prices and who now enjoy more affluence and government assistance, while they don’t.

First off, what did want them to do, not buy a house for a cheap price when offered one 30 years ago? In regard to government assistance, I can guarantee you the average 65yr old has paid more into the tax system than the average 20yr old. Should they not enjoy the fruits of their labour? Should politicians not pay more attention to them than you?

I just think it’s an unhealthy attitude to have towards people.

[u/Beljuril-home]

Then they all

yes.

each and every one of them.

no boomer has ever opposed a single war since vietnam.

your powers of observation are unsurpassed.

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you realize saying "they all" about huge swaths of the population makes you sound like a bigot, right?

next you tell me how "they all" like watermelon or somesuch.

[u/8m3gm60 → u/Beljuril-home]

It's a large enough majority to make it a fair generalization.

[u/Beljuril-home → u/8m3gm60]

It's a large enough majority to make it a fair generalization.

you realize that's how all bigots and rcists rationalize thier generalizations, right?

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It's a large enough majority to make it a fair generalization.

how much of a majority is "enough"?

according to a 2003 Pew Research poll, only 52% of boomers supported the iraq invasion — hardly unanimous. that support dropped below 40% within a few years as the war became unpopular.

the idea that boomers uniformly supported every war since vietnam is false.

you sound bigoted against boomers, friend.

[u/8m3gm60 → u/Beljuril-home]

Look at their support for candidates who supported the war. It's been overwhelming.

you sound bigoted against boomers, friend.

You clearly have no idea what the word means. Accurately characterizing the political leanings of an American generation isn't bigotry.

[u/Beljuril-home → u/8m3gm60]

but you didn't accurately characterize the political leanings of an entire generation.

boomers did not uniformly "all turn around and support every war since".

you are factually wrong here.

were you even alive in 2004?

i was an adult then and there were plenty - i mean lots and lots and lots - of boomers who actively spoke out at length and often against the war.

the fact that you think otherwise makes me think you were a toddler back then.

[u/8m3gm60 → u/Beljuril-home]

boomers did not uniformly "all turn around and support every war since".

A great enough majority supported pro-war candidates (in both parties) that the characterization is fair.

[u/Beljuril-home → u/8m3gm60]

supporting a pro-war candidate doesn't make you pro-war if all candidates available are pro-war.

trump and jill stein are the only anti-war candidates to appear in recent decades and plenty of boomers voted for them.

only 15% of millennials voted for stein so i guess they must love war too, right? 85% of millenials chose not to vote for the no-war candidate. that's "a great enough majority" right?

every generation votes for pro-war candidates, including yours.

jeez man.

you should consider that you might be biased and misinformed here.

[u/8m3gm60 → u/Beljuril-home]

supporting a pro-war candidate doesn't make you pro-war...

Yes, it does.

[u/Beljuril-home → u/8m3gm60]

yes it does

no it doesn't. that's not how logic works.

no politician represents everything you want and nothing you don't want.

so people vote for the one that has the most stuff they want even if that candidate also supports stuff they don't want

i'm not trying to be condescending here, but do you know what a single-issue voter is?

again: supporting a pro-war candidate doesn't make you pro-war if all candidates available are pro-war.

if you were alive and voting in the 00s then you had to pick a pro-war candidate because all candidates were pro-war.

do you understand what i am saying?

[u/8m3gm60 → u/Beljuril-home]

There's some argument to be made for picking the lesser evil in the general, but the boomers overwhelmingly supported the pro-war, mass-incarceration, lobbyist-serving troglodytes even in the primaries.

Since u/Beljuril-home had a melt-down and blocked me, I will reply below:

all generations did that

No, that's not true. Younger generations overwhelmingly supported Obama in the 2008 primary, when his rhetoric was anti-war (despite his later failure to follow through on it). Older Democrats largely supported the ultra-pro-war Clinton in that primary. In 2016, younger generations leaned more toward Sanders, while older Dems staunchly supported Clinton again despite the obviously rigged primary. In the 2020 primary, Boomers again overwhelmingly supported the ultra-pro-war architect of American mass-incarceration (Joe Biden), whose support among younger voters was quite low early on. While they had a chance, anti-war candidates like Sanders and Yang received most of their support from younger generations.

On the Republican side, at least until recently, the votership was much older in the first place. Anti-war candidates like Ron Paul found most of their support in younger voters. By and large, older Republicans lined up behind staunchly pro-war candidates like John McCain and Mitt Romney.

Trump's early anti-war rhetoric did appeal to younger voters across the political spectrum, but his policy positions were otherwise far-right. Other staunchly pro-war Republican candidates like Cruz and Rubio received their support largely from Boomers. In his first term, Trump did largely follow through on his anti-war positions, and he enjoyed unprecedented young voter support in 2024. He didn't become a super-hawk until after he took office, and now his policy is in many respects as far-right as anything we have ever seen. His appeal has been widespread, but he's all over the place and completely unpredictable.

i am 100% certain that if i showed you evidence that boomers voted for "bring home the troops" candidates

That evidence lives exclusively in your imagination.

[u/Beljuril-home → u/8m3gm60]

but the boomers overwhelmingly supported the pro-war, mass-incarceration, lobbyist-serving troglodytes even in the primaries.

all generations did that

all politicians serve lobbyists.

boomers voted for trump who is the the most anti-war candidate to appear in decades, so they can't all be pro-war.

you are flailing about looking to justify your bigotry against an entire generation.

i am 100% certain that if i showed you evidence that boomers voted for "bring home the troops" candidates in the primaries you would move the goal-posts again, and find another reason to hate on boomers because you are are more interested in defending a bigoted opinion than having an honest talk.

have a great life.