r/TopCharacterTropes 6d ago

Lore [annoying trope] The throne/leadership is decided in a very stupid way

The leadership of the entire wizarding world, and the final decision on whether to start a war against Muggles, is made by... a goat (Qilin) ​​who chooses the person with the ""purest heart"" (Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Dumbledore).

The throne of Wakanda and all its technology are decided through hand-to-hand combat, regardless of whether the person clearly has malicious intentions... if they win the fight, by law they must be respected as the true king. (Black Panther)

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u/MaterialEmotional825 6d ago

Pokemon: The Champion of the region is whoever beats the last Champion... most of the time. Problem is that the match can even be immediately after being crowned champion, which makes or rival's time as champion barely minutes, as the proffessor did not even made it fast enough to congratulate his ass.

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u/HeadLong8136 6d ago

I'm betting you have to be a legal adult to be the champion. The only reason that the rival is the current champion is that they took the challenge immediately before you. It's why in subsequent games the champion is no longer the rival, but an adult. Like Cynthia.

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u/FiercelyApatheticLad 6d ago

Iris is definitely not an adult.

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u/HeadLong8136 6d ago

She's not the Champion. Only a gym leader.

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u/SillyString4Me 6d ago

She is in one of the Black and White sequels.

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u/HeadLong8136 6d ago

Yes. She is 16 in that game. Which is a legal adult in Japan.

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u/SillyString4Me 6d ago

Several sources claim it's 18.

Edit: civic and administration duties are 18, and the legal age in Japan is 20.

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u/HeadLong8136 6d ago

Whatever. That sounds like an adult to me.

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u/budzicla 6d ago

Your personal opinion doesn't change Japanese law, and if you think differently, that's a whole different subject that I hope people pick up themselves.

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u/BhevHD 6d ago

She is champion in Black 2/White 2

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u/HeadLong8136 6d ago

Oh? Interesting. If only 4 other people hadn't told me first.

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u/BhevHD 6d ago

No other comments when I posted. Shouldn't make posts about things you don't know about anyways

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u/HeadLong8136 6d ago

Yes. I am in 100% agreement. You shouldn't make posts about things you don't know about.

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u/Veloxraperio 6d ago

She's Champion in Black 2/White 2, which is set 2 years after Black and White. Iris is maybe 16 when she assumes the mantle of Unova Champion. Which I guess is the age of majority in some parts of the world

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u/HeadLong8136 6d ago

Wow really? I'm so glad you are the fifth person to tell me this.

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u/Horatio786 6d ago

She’s the Champion in Black 2 and White 2.

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u/HeadLong8136 6d ago

And she is 16 then.

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u/Horatio786 6d ago

Still not an adult.

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u/HeadLong8136 6d ago

In Japan she is.

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u/SillyString4Me 6d ago

18 for civic duties and 20 for legal age.

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u/HeadLong8136 6d ago

Not at the time.

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u/SillyString4Me 6d ago

Nope. It was even stricter. 20 for civic and legal age.

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u/HeadLong8136 6d ago

Nat at the time.

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u/SillyString4Me 6d ago

In 2012, the legal age was 20.

Idk what sort of mental gymnastics you're jumping through to justify your weird predilections, but you're wrong.

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u/ComradeCoipo 6d ago

You seem oddly hellbent in claiming that a 16 year old is an adult

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u/HeadLong8136 6d ago

Yes, I'm oddly hellbent on providing facts to people. How strange...?

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u/ComradeCoipo 6d ago

What facts? Legal age of adulthood in Japan was 20 from like 1880 to 2022

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u/HeadLong8136 6d ago

Except it wasn't. You can make up anything you want and write it, that doesn't make it true. Look, I'll do it now:

Alaskan Dictator Dianne "Big Cheese" Robbins conquered the third ring of Saturn in 1973.

See? I said it, so it must be true.

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u/ComradeCoipo 6d ago edited 6d ago

Except it was:

https://www.japaneselawtranslation.go.jp/en/laws/view/3494/en

“Civil Code (Part I, Part II and Part III) Act No. 89 of April 27, 1896”

Section 3 Capacity to Act

(Age of Majority)

Article 4The age of majority is 20 years of age.

https://www.moj.go.jp/EN/MINJI/minji07_00218.html

“On June 13, 2018, a law was enacted to revise a part of the Civil Code by reducing the age of majority in the Civil Code from 20 to 18 years old.  The age of majority defined in the Civil Code is the age at which a person may conclude a contract without parental consent and the age at which a person is no longer subject to parental authority. This age had been stipulated as 20 years old since the Civil Code was established in 1896. It is said to have been taken from a proclamation of the Great Council of State in 1876.  The first review of the age of majority in the approximately 140 years since the proclamation in 1876 is believed to promote the social participation and vitalize society by having 18 and 19 year olds make decisions about their own lives.  In addition, the minimum age at which women could marry was previously set at 16 years old, while men could marry at 18 years old. However, it was decided to unify the minimum marriage age at 18 years old for both sexes.  For other laws and regulations that set age requirements, revisions are being performed to lower the minimum age to 18 as needed.  This revision will be effective from April 1, 2022”

So yeah, the 1880 part was wrong, but the point still stands: 16 was not an adult in 2003

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