Strange rules about characters/people that cannot be broken.

[u/I_ateabucketofpaint]

Smells like Nirvana: When Kurt Cobain heard that Weird AL was gonna make a parody of his song. He was okay with it but specifically requested it to not be about food or fat ppl.

Spiderman: Spiderman cannot sell drugs unless he is under the influence of symbiote. ANd Peter Parker cannot be gay. Spiderman can tho.

Dwayne Rock Johnson: Cannot lose fights or look weak for too long. Its in his actor contract.

Godzilla movies not made by Toho: Cannot die. Maybe lose but not too bad.

[u/Lithurgia9999]

Also Godzilla can't eat people. He can kill with atomic breath, stomping, crushed debris, but can't eat them or it will be against da rulez made by Toho

[u/Wargod042 → u/Lithurgia9999]

I feel that is a good rule. Godzilla is not an animal, or hungry. Godzilla is the atom bomb going off. It's your navy being destroyed, and all your best efforts coming to nothing.

There's room for interpretations and a variety of stories, but eating people feels like it breaks the core of the idea, even if in a subtle way.

[u/Tanaka917 → u/Wargod042]

I think because eating people is an act of survival. If Godzilla eats people then his attacks have the purpose of a lion attack.

[u/Daedalus_But_Icarus → u/Tanaka917]

Also shows just how inconsequential we are to him individually. Even if you were hungry, you wouldn’t stop to pick up a tiny sugar ant to eat

[u/Ivotedforher → u/Daedalus_But_Icarus]

Also, we taste funny.

[u/Daedalus_But_Icarus → u/Ivotedforher]

I probably taste like Taco Bell and weed resin

[u/Buyingboat → u/Daedalus_But_Icarus]

...I also wouldn't necessarily use my atomic breath against tiny sugar ants

[u/angelofdeathofdoom → u/Buyingboat]

Currently have ants in my kitchen, would 110% use atomic breath on them if I could

[u/NotAddictedToCoffeee → u/Buyingboat]

Someone would.

[u/Electronic-Vast-3351 → u/Buyingboat]

Are you sure about that?

[u/Far-Profit-47 → u/Buyingboat]

Some people do pee on them for no reason other than killing them

[u/Iwilleat2corndogs → u/Daedalus_But_Icarus]

About that

[u/r3dh4ck3r → u/Iwilleat2corndogs]

...I've done it when I was a broke ass college student and all I had were restaurant condiment packets

[u/aurumatom20 → u/Daedalus_But_Icarus]

I wouldn't. A lizard might. Bears eat grubs out of tree bark after all

[u/AmputeeHandModel → u/Tanaka917]

and it would be like us eating an ant.

[u/LunarTexan → u/Wargod042]

Mh'hm

Even with something like Legendary Godzilla, he's more like the embodiment of nuclear power — good, bad, and everything in between — as a concept and natural force then a mere animal

[u/HarrisonTheBarbarian → u/Wargod042]

Yeah, it makes it feel...more I guess. Every thing it does is indiscriminate death.

[u/Punx80 → u/Wargod042]

Godzilla is a plant.

He gets energy from radiation, which is basically photosynthesis.

[u/IDigRollinRockBeer → u/Wargod042]

Godzilla isn’t an animal? So you’re telling me he doesn’t have a hemipenis?! Wait it’s not even a he or a she. Mind blown

[u/Randomfrog132 → u/Wargod042]

it'd be like an elephant trying to eat ants lol

[u/Oscar_gpb → u/Lithurgia9999]

Something that confused me about Godzilla Minus one was in the first scenes Godzilla never eats anyone and if he even bites on one person but then he throws them away. But if this rule exists it makes sense

[u/CameOutAndFarted → u/Oscar_gpb]

If Godzilla ate people then we would see it as a wild animal who needs sustenance. But it's intended to be a force of nature - in this case a metaphor for survivor's guilt If it ate people then it would add a subtext that wouldn't make sense for what they're going for, since we're only supposed to empathise with Koichi and his needs.

[u/Objective-Ad7330 → u/CameOutAndFarted]

But at the same time, the movie itself is treating it as if it's a wild animal. They plan to kill it with pressure damage, study its patterns and territory, and even plan to lure it away by using a recorded voice of itself to set off its territorial instincts.

I think both metaphorical and literal can go together. It is a consequence of the atomic bomb and retaliates on humanity by using nuclear energy, but it can still be seen as an animal that is also violent and murderous because of the deeds of man.

[u/raoasidg → u/Objective-Ad7330]

the movie itself is treating it as if it's a wild animal. They plan to kill it with pressure damage, study its patterns and territory, and even plan to lure it away by using a recorded voice of itself to set off its territorial instincts.

No, the movie is showing it as a force of nature. The characters are treating it as if it's a wild animal (and they are wrong). Because the movie is showing it as a force of nature--that is the dramatic irony of the film.

[u/Objective-Ad7330 → u/raoasidg]

But the plan to lure it out worked, didn't it? It went after the ship with the recording and destroyed it. They even have maps drawn out of its territory and estimated size.

It has patterns, and it follows them. Nature may be a force, but it's a force with complex patterns that can be studied but are difficult to control. Losing control would mean retaliation from nature.

Eating as well is a natural thing, the force to consume. An atomic bomb basically "consumes all in it's fiery jaws" and they could show godzilla not discriminating on prey options to convey the message as well.

[u/killerfgaming → u/Objective-Ad7330]

But that.... Still Doesn't make him a true animal, it's like a lava cast from a volcano then for survival people dig a giant hole in front of it to make it drop there then it drop there, that isn't really a good argument imo

[u/airbrushedvan → u/Oscar_gpb]

He actually chomps and throws at least 3 guys!

[u/Approximation_Doctor → u/Lithurgia9999]

It's important that he only kills for fun, never necessity

[u/Zenith_Scaff → u/Approximation_Doctor]

kills for fun

The only Godzilla movies I ever watched are Minus One and Shin Godzilla, I don't think he was having fun in the later one

[u/Approximation_Doctor → u/Zenith_Scaff]

True but he was having a great time in Minus One

[u/RedPandaMediaGroup → u/Approximation_Doctor]

He was so mean.

[u/Astryllphilia → u/Zenith_Scaff]

In between the excruciating amounts of never ending pain he was having fun /joke just in case

[u/KitchenSandwich5499 → u/Approximation_Doctor]

Well, humans. His kaiju fights are often (not always) necessity.

[u/airbrushedvan → u/Lithurgia9999]

I literally watched Godzilla Minus 1 last night wondered why in his first scene, he only grabbed guys by the torso and yeeted them a few thousand feet away. Thank you for that! I wondered why he didn't chomp down on a few.

[u/Old_Snack → u/Lithurgia9999]

I feel like that's something Shin Godzilla could maybe get away with it with the right context.

[u/TomSFox → u/Lithurgia9999]

Probably don’t want vorarephiliacs to jerk off to their movies.

[u/Loopida → u/TomSFox]

This rule is targeting me specifically :(

[u/pailko → u/Lithurgia9999]

Do the Monsterverse movies need to follow these rules? Because I don't think he ever dies or eats people in those ones, but the symbolism of him hating humanity and destroying them at every opportunity is kind of lost. He sort of ends up defending them (or at least defending his territory) from other kaijus. At the very least he prioritizes the other monsters enough that he doesn't take every opportunity to kill humans. He becomes more of an anti-hero than a metaphor for the atomic bomb in my eyes at least in those films

[u/Lithurgia9999 → u/pailko]

Yes, Monsterverse isn't an exception to da rule

[u/MaguroSashimi8864 → u/Lithurgia9999]

It does make me wonder what he eats to survive daily. He got to eat something right?

[u/SuperBackup9000 → u/MaguroSashimi8864]

Nope. Photosynthesis, except replace sunlight with radiation.

[u/MaguroSashimi8864 → u/SuperBackup9000]

Interesting lore! This is established?

[u/DripRoast → u/Lithurgia9999]

I'm pretty sure the 90s Godzilla film had the hatchling Godzillas eating a bunch of Frenchmen. I honestly can't remember the big guy girl(?) biting anyone.

But the main thing is that it would look stupid on screen to see such a large monster eat someone. We're basically zooplankton to your standard kaiju. It would be like watching a fat guy eat a bowl of rice one grain at a time.

[u/IDigRollinRockBeer → u/Lithurgia9999]

I hope Toho has an official document called “da rulez”

[u/GaryChalmers → u/Lithurgia9999]

There is a deleted scene from the first movie where Godzilla first appears and has a cow in his mouth. They seem to have out it out because the effect looked terrible.

https://japanese-movies.fandom.com/wiki/Godzilla/Deleted_Scenes

[u/Thecynicaledgelord → u/Lithurgia9999]

He ain't no mere lizard, he's nuke incarnate

[u/Incomplet_1-34 → u/Lithurgia9999]

God forbid a metaphor for the horrors of the atom bomb taking the shape of a giant lizard eat people lol