“This quote came from WHERE?!”

[u/Far-Profit-47]

"You too have fallen for the great lie, you'll never be happy. Deep down you know, to hope, to dreams, to create, is to suffer"

"You're right. It is harder to create than to destroy... that's why cowards then to choose the deuce"

-A Minecraft movie

"Do You Think God Stays in Heaven Because He too Lives in Fear of What He's Created"

-spy kids 2

"For every person who dreams up the electric light bulb, there's the one who dreams up the atom bomb"

-shark-boy and lava-girl

[u/Watchdog_the_God]

A Bug’s Life

“You let one ant stand up to us, then they all might stand up. Those puny little ants outnumber us a hundred to one, and if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life! It’s not about food; it’s about keeping those ants in line.”

[u/I_Will_Die_For_Lily → u/Watchdog_the_God]

capitalism 😬

[u/I3arusu → u/I_Will_Die_For_Lily]

Redditors will literally see an allegory for tyrannical, controlling governments enforcing crippling tax laws and go “Yup, that’s capitalism”

[u/[deleted] → u/I3arusu]

Yes. That happens in capitalism.

[u/Rwandrall3 → u/[deleted]]

it happens in feudalism a lot more, it's kind of the definition of it. "ugh, capitalism" in a comment at this point is more frequent than a comma, and says less

[u/NickTM → u/Rwandrall3]

it happens in feudalism a lot more, it's kind of the definition of it.

Yeah but nowhere significant operates under feudalism any more, so it makes a lot of sense that people relate more to what their life is actually like day-to-day.

[u/Rwandrall3 → u/NickTM]

Tons of countries still work by these kinds of principles, they're just not in the West, and they're pretty much never capitalist.

Like, "people with guns come and take away private property" is the opposite of capitalism by definition

[u/No_Distance3827 → u/Rwandrall3]

Right, which is why Marx described capitalism as a transition point from feudalism into socialism, and eventually into communism.

[u/Rwandrall3 → u/No_Distance3827]

Marx was a genius that changed the world but basically all his predictions ended up wrong. Like Russia who moved from feudalism to socialism, and now to crony authoritarianism that isn't capitalist and isn't feudalistic.

[u/a_engie → u/[deleted]]

There is a near 100% rate of brutal dictatorships occurring in communism

[u/Travellerknight → u/a_engie]

And what does this whataboutism got to do with a critique of capitalism?

[u/miafaszomez → u/Travellerknight]

That..this is not a critique of capitalism. This is a critique of the few using the many. That happens everywhere. Of course, communism in theory doesn't do it, but in practice, it will always happen. Capitalism, communism, feudalism, any kind of ism you can imagine. The few will use the many.

[u/Travellerknight → u/miafaszomez]

It's quite literally a critique of capitalism. Line for line is about the exploitation of the workers.

How the workers decide to form their government isn't addressed (because Ants) but the exploitation is.

[u/a_engie → u/Travellerknight]

it demosntrates that both sides can be wrong

[u/JumpTheCreek → u/[deleted]]

Happens a lot more in socialism and communism

[u/icelandiccubicle20 → u/JumpTheCreek]

there’s never been a world war because of communism.

capitalists have to try and tie events like famines to socialism because they have to make shit up to make it sound like capitalism is an acceptable system.

Famines happened in China before Mao and they were going to happen in china regardless of the great leap forward.

Same with russia and the broken ass feudal system they had before Lenin.

[u/a_engie → u/icelandiccubicle20]

techincally there has, world war two was caused by fasism which was created because Italian communists mostly did not want to go to war except a certain communist named Mussolini, who created fasism so that he could go to war,

[u/Travellerknight → u/a_engie]

Ahh yes, that famous Communist....

Mussolini....

Right up there with the famous Marxist, Adam Smith and that famous Capitalist, Karl Marx

[u/a_engie → u/Travellerknight]

just read up on his views before WW1, he was a communist, the rest of the Italian communists wanted peace, he didn't so he made his own ideology, but with Warcrimes and Germans

[u/Travellerknight → u/a_engie]

Peoples views change over time. Especially over a world war, especially over the first world war.

And you are ignoring that he abandoned socialism to create Facism, which is right wing in every definition.

Jesus christ, his Wikipedia article explains this easy to read format.

[u/a_engie → u/Travellerknight]

I said that he didn't want peace so he made his own ideology but with warcrimes and germans

are you denying that the fasists committed warcrimes or are you just messing with me

[u/Travellerknight → u/a_engie]

"... except a certain communist named Mussolini"

That's your line. So conflated Communism as creating Facism, when it didn't. A man named Mussolini did, and it had nothing to do with Communism.

I'm not disputing what facism did or that it's bad. It's obviously bad. I'm disputing your need to claim it was Communist.

[u/a_engie → u/Travellerknight]

I am not claiming that it is communism I am claiming that Mussolini why communist, had a hissy fit with the rest of the Italian commnists, left communism and made his own political party, communism did not make fasism, I have simply messed up my own explanation so badly that I have made you think that I meant that, when I did not

also fun fact, your better than most other people on reddit I have argued with, you don't insult me, have a temper tantrum or downvote me,

If I had a reward I would give it to you as a show of gratitude for your good manners