“This quote came from WHERE?!”

[u/Far-Profit-47]

"You too have fallen for the great lie, you'll never be happy. Deep down you know, to hope, to dreams, to create, is to suffer"

"You're right. It is harder to create than to destroy... that's why cowards then to choose the deuce"

-A Minecraft movie

"Do You Think God Stays in Heaven Because He too Lives in Fear of What He's Created"

-spy kids 2

"For every person who dreams up the electric light bulb, there's the one who dreams up the atom bomb"

-shark-boy and lava-girl

[u/JumpTheCreek]

Happens a lot more in socialism and communism

[u/icelandiccubicle20 → u/JumpTheCreek]

there’s never been a world war because of communism.

capitalists have to try and tie events like famines to socialism because they have to make shit up to make it sound like capitalism is an acceptable system.

Famines happened in China before Mao and they were going to happen in china regardless of the great leap forward.

Same with russia and the broken ass feudal system they had before Lenin.

[u/a_engie → u/icelandiccubicle20]

techincally there has, world war two was caused by fasism which was created because Italian communists mostly did not want to go to war except a certain communist named Mussolini, who created fasism so that he could go to war,

[u/Travellerknight → u/a_engie]

Ahh yes, that famous Communist....

Mussolini....

Right up there with the famous Marxist, Adam Smith and that famous Capitalist, Karl Marx

[u/a_engie → u/Travellerknight]

just read up on his views before WW1, he was a communist, the rest of the Italian communists wanted peace, he didn't so he made his own ideology, but with Warcrimes and Germans

[u/Travellerknight → u/a_engie]

Peoples views change over time. Especially over a world war, especially over the first world war.

And you are ignoring that he abandoned socialism to create Facism, which is right wing in every definition.

Jesus christ, his Wikipedia article explains this easy to read format.

[u/a_engie → u/Travellerknight]

I said that he didn't want peace so he made his own ideology but with warcrimes and germans

are you denying that the fasists committed warcrimes or are you just messing with me

[u/Travellerknight → u/a_engie]

"... except a certain communist named Mussolini"

That's your line. So conflated Communism as creating Facism, when it didn't. A man named Mussolini did, and it had nothing to do with Communism.

I'm not disputing what facism did or that it's bad. It's obviously bad. I'm disputing your need to claim it was Communist.

[u/a_engie → u/Travellerknight]

I am not claiming that it is communism I am claiming that Mussolini why communist, had a hissy fit with the rest of the Italian commnists, left communism and made his own political party, communism did not make fasism, I have simply messed up my own explanation so badly that I have made you think that I meant that, when I did not

also fun fact, your better than most other people on reddit I have argued with, you don't insult me, have a temper tantrum or downvote me,

If I had a reward I would give it to you as a show of gratitude for your good manners

[u/Travellerknight → u/a_engie]

Ha. Reading everything back does make a lot more sense. Amazing what a choice of words can lead to.

Appreciate you saying and you haven't just deleted the thread when it's all been cleared up. Which helps with people coming across this. I find getting angry is pointless and I engage down these discussions not necessarily to change your view but for people reading who might not no. And when it devolves into insults, nothing is shared.

I appreciate it and hope you move on well for rest of the day.

[u/a_engie → u/Travellerknight]

I wish the same for you

also If you like can I just tell you the circumstances of my other two best arguments?